All good Muskeg,
I want to add one clarification. When I baited up the yard, I stood peeking out from a hidden curtain window. The JOLT came from the bait when he went to pick it up. It is very important that I stayed totally hidden. I started with a good jolt and he actually dropped the bait out of his mouth.. After maybe half dozen sessions the end product was him barking at it about a meter in ALARM function until I came out.
The shock never comes from you, it has to come from the object you are adversion training to.. A random bait if touched BITES THE HECK OUT OF YOU!!!! Then they learn it is naturally to be avoided... It has been many years, but I think I used a med-high stimulation to get a bit of a yelp out of him.
I don't know another way
, and only worried about undermining personal confidence in my new pup coming. But even that is better than dead..
I will only do it at one to two years old.. I am still looking for a better way... /was hoping someone could tell a training regime to accomplish it without the e-collar...
All the Training types I have seen, worked with the Handler present, they soon learned not to touch it.. But when on their own and the Handler gone? It is as if they thought it must be OK...
BTW, am going to Alaska next year in July for my 61st Birthday to try Trophy Rainbow Trout and Salmon fishing... Never done fly fishing. Catch and release program, guided, expensive but what the heck, 5 days in the remote rivers. Your scenery should be so devastatingly beautiful, the fish will not matter much
A week at Cheyenne Frontier Days in Wyoming, then up to Alaska. Only wish my new pup could come..
The wolves in the wild are what caught me up into GSDs... "Dances With Wolves" ever since then I am hung up. I am so into them, I am going to Yellowstone in January for 10 days, 2 and a half weeks from Australia all up, to go into the snow bound and closed park by SnowCat to see the wolf packs in action.. 98 Wolves monitored in the park, in ten packs, and pretty much the only time you can see them is around the thermal events where the animals gather in dead of winter. Something like 300 kills a year, last count 90% elk (they have good taste), 13 Bison, dozen or so deer, and odd other like a coyote... It will be a huge experience even if I do not get too close to the wolves. Four days by Snowcat looking, four days by snowmobile, two days open to learn cross country skiing... You must see a lot of them living in Alaska.... !!!!!!!
Best regards from Australia, only dingos and foxes, a few deer, tons of rabbits, and millions of giant hoppers, heh he...