Corrections for Dummies

Jax08 · 01-31-2012, 09:39 AM

Is there a book? lol I've seen so many threads that are anti correction/pro correction but there are never specifics on correction types, when to use, etc.

Obviously the type of correction will vary per dog and depending on the state of mind that dog is in at the time.

When are corrections fair?

What kind of corrections do you use?

What does "scruffing" teach your dog?

What age is acceptable to start with a correction collar?

brembo · 01-31-2012, 09:51 AM

Read this

http://www.amazon.com/Other-End-Leash-Patricia-McConnell/dp/0345446798

Not specific on corrections, but one of the best books I've read in general.

Jax08 · 01-31-2012, 09:53 AM

I wasn't really asking for information. I have that book and love it. I wanted opinions from others that use corrections.

Jax08 · 01-31-2012, 10:38 AM

Nobody has any opinions? Thoughts to share?

BR870 · 01-31-2012, 10:48 AM

Yeah, correction does seem to be kinda poorly defined. To some, a correction is only when it is physical like a collar pop or pinch. To others it is a negative verbal marker.

Personally, I try to do few corrections when possible. Sometimes it seems unavoidable, atleast if you want the dog to have house manners. Still, I mostly try to use redirection first, then a negative verbal maker. If I have to I will grab the collar and use the negative verbal marker, but only as last resort...

I also always try to make sure it is done without emotion. Often it is the anger that makes the correction harsh or unfair, not the act of correcting itself.

RocketDog · 01-31-2012, 10:55 AM

I'm interested too.

I never thought of myself as a 'novice' dog owner, since I've had several and once even got a CD with one, lol. After reading so much about what others have and do, I guess I am still a novice, kind of.

I think being fair is the most important--I also believe in teaching what I want first. I think corrections are definitely part of dog training, but not in every aspect. I don't let the dog do anything as a pup I don't want as an adult, and things that are dangerous are IMMEDIATELY corrected.

The thing is, much depends on how hard/soft the dog is, and whether the response is fear-based or not. Also, the puppy biting thing was hard for me, because so much of that is a play response, usually worse when my pup was happy and riled up. It's hard to squash drive for me, I prefer to channel it.

My first shepherd was much more dominant than Rocket. I say that knowing how it's viewed around here, but he was a dog who always carried his tail high, was more dog-aggressive, totally fearless, extremely confident. I used more corrections on him than I have with Rocket, probably because of that.

I'm interested in watching this thread.

Bismarck · 01-31-2012, 11:06 AM

correction = attention.

no more, no less.

wildo · 01-31-2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bismarck

correction = attention.

no more, no less.

Please explain...

marshies · 01-31-2012, 11:53 AM

Vastly interested in this topic. Amaretto has been here long enough to have learned appropriate behaviors and expectations in the house. Trainer recommended crating her when she misbehaves...but living in an apartment, having her screaming like a banshee in the evenings or mornings just isn't an option.

hunterisgreat · 01-31-2012, 12:02 PM

When are corrections fair?
When the dog fully understands the correct behavior and chooses not to follow it.

What kind of corrections do you use?
Verbal, prong collars, choke collars, ecollars, my hands, denial of someone desired. Whatever is most appropriate at the time

What does "scruffing" teach your dog?
You mean as in, grabbing them by the scruff of their neck? I've never done that

What age is acceptable to start with a correction collar?
Depends on the dog...

01-31-2012, 09:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 14,337	Corrections for Dummies Is there a book? lol I've seen so many threads that are anti correction/pro correction but there are never specifics on correction types, when to use, etc. Obviously the type of correction will vary per dog and depending on the state of mind that dog is in at the time. When are corrections fair? What kind of corrections do you use? What does "scruffing" teach your dog? What age is acceptable to start with a correction collar? Last edited by Jax08; 01-31-2012 at 09:46 AM.

01-31-2012, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
brembo Master Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here, of course Posts: 696	Read this http://www.amazon.com/Other-End-Leash-Patricia-McConnell/dp/0345446798 http://www.amazon.com/Other-End-Leash-Patricia-McConnell/dp/0345446798 Not specific on corrections, but one of the best books I've read in general. __________________ I seem to have misplaced my occipital lobe, and as such cannot search for it. Do you see my dilemma?

01-31-2012, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 14,337	Nobody has any opinions? Thoughts to share? __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

01-31-2012, 10:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
BR870 Master Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 828	Yeah, correction does seem to be kinda poorly defined. To some, a correction is only when it is physical like a collar pop or pinch. To others it is a negative verbal marker. Personally, I try to do few corrections when possible. Sometimes it seems unavoidable, atleast if you want the dog to have house manners. Still, I mostly try to use redirection first, then a negative verbal maker. If I have to I will grab the collar and use the negative verbal marker, but only as last resort... I also always try to make sure it is done without emotion. Often it is the anger that makes the correction harsh or unfair, not the act of correcting itself. __________________ Rob Ezra von der Rennbahn Princess Abigail "Abbie" Kai (RIP) Loki (RIP)

01-31-2012, 11:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
marshies Elite Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,027	Vastly interested in this topic. Amaretto has been here long enough to have learned appropriate behaviors and expectations in the house. Trainer recommended crating her when she misbehaves...but living in an apartment, having her screaming like a banshee in the evenings or mornings just isn't an option. __________________ Amaretto von Huerta Hof - 23.08.11, the adventure begins D.W. - Netherlands Dwarf Rabbit

01-31-2012, 09:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 14,337	I wasn't really asking for information. I have that book and love it. I wanted opinions from others that use corrections.

01-31-2012, 10:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
RocketDog Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 1,270	I'm interested too. I never thought of myself as a 'novice' dog owner, since I've had several and once even got a CD with one, lol. After reading so much about what others have and do, I guess I am still a novice, kind of. I think being fair is the most important--I also believe in teaching what I want first. I think corrections are definitely part of dog training, but not in every aspect. I don't let the dog do anything as a pup I don't want as an adult, and things that are dangerous are IMMEDIATELY corrected. The thing is, much depends on how hard/soft the dog is, and whether the response is fear-based or not. Also, the puppy biting thing was hard for me, because so much of that is a play response, usually worse when my pup was happy and riled up. It's hard to squash drive for me, I prefer to channel it. My first shepherd was much more dominant than Rocket. I say that knowing how it's viewed around here, but he was a dog who always carried his tail high, was more dog-aggressive, totally fearless, extremely confident. I used more corrections on him than I have with Rocket, probably because of that. I'm interested in watching this thread.

01-31-2012, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bismarck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 399	correction = attention. no more, no less.

01-31-2012, 12:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
hunterisgreat Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,566	When are corrections fair? When the dog fully understands the correct behavior and chooses not to follow it. What kind of corrections do you use? Verbal, prong collars, choke collars, ecollars, my hands, denial of someone desired. Whatever is most appropriate at the time What does "scruffing" teach your dog? You mean as in, grabbing them by the scruff of their neck? I've never done that What age is acceptable to start with a correction collar? Depends on the dog... __________________ Hunter, USA basic trial helper Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, BH Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO1 SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1

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