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Old 01-22-2012, 11:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It sounds like she still is intimidated by you.

Google "submissive urination". You can start on here even, but I think that's what you're dealing with. Rule #1, DO NOT GET MAD AT HER when she does this.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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- yes you do have to mind-shift from thinking it is dominance -- it may be the exact opposite - the dog may be submissive dribbling when you are around and she feels the pressure . Then you pay attention to the "peeing" "marking" and she gets more excited , throwing you more signals that she is submitting to you . Calming signal , not dominance.

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^ This. Please, please get that dominance idea out of your head. You do not need more dominance over your dog, and the things that your dog is doing are almost certainly not about trying to be dominant over you. She is not trying to claim her territory.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Agree with the others. You're already WAY TOO dominant, which is why your dog is intimidated and dribbling. DO NOT get angry or upset as this will just make the urinating worse. You need to try to dominate her LESS, not more.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Agree with the others. You're already WAY TOO dominant, which is why your dog is intimidated and dribbling. DO NOT get angry or upset as this will just make the urinating worse. You need to try to dominate her LESS, not more.
im a new young trainer i wanted a puppy but my dad didnt want to wait so how do i seem les intimidating i try not to hover over her
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:25 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Are you working with a trainer?

I don't agree that it's necessarily YOU that is the issue. There may have been an issue in her previous home. She's scared, she's submissive, she's an adult possibly with some baggage.

Do some research into submissive urination. There are also lots of threads on here regarding it.

7 month old peeing when scolded
Excited/Submissive Urination and fearful of new people/things

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...8&pp=25&page=2
(just do a search for submissive urination if this above link doesn't work)

It would greatly help you to find a trainer to teach you how to train your dog. It will help build a bond with her. Maybe you could list your GENERAL location and some ppl on here may be able to help you find a trainer that you will like.
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Are you working with a trainer?

I don't agree that it's necessarily YOU that is the issue. There may have been an issue in her previous home. She's scared, she's submissive, she's an adult possibly with some baggage.

Do some research into submissive urination. There are also lots of threads on here regarding it.

7 month old peeing when scolded
Excited/Submissive Urination and fearful of new people/things

German Shepherd Dog Forums - Search Results
(just do a search for submissive urination if this above link doesn't work)

It would greatly help you to find a trainer to teach you how to train your dog. It will help build a bond with her. Maybe you could list your GENERAL location and some ppl on here may be able to help you find a trainer that you will like.
Me personally i think in her previous home she was beaten but i do know that on the prevoius house she was with 2 great danes bigger than her so they may have be teasing /intimindating her and she might have put me in that position but we do have a bond she will play with me sometimes and ill will throw a tennis ball she go get it
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Dominance in pet dogs is almost always mid-labeled. Dogs have evolved to learn our body language. I can say without a doubt the dog has no idea she(?) did somethig wrong. She is only reading the anger/ fdissapointment in your body language. The best thing to do is make sure if the dog urinates on the ground outside and not on you, then reward her. She peed outside. That's great
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she brings it back to so you can throw it again?

First, get rid of the tennis ball. The balls are small enough they can get caught in their throat. I would get a cuz or a larger ball made for dog with a string on it.

Second, throw it and say Yes! in a very, very happy voice. Let her associate the ball (the reward) to you. I did this with my girl to build a relationship. Does she sit? Down? Have you looked up clicker training? I think clicker training is ideal for a submissive dog. YOu don't necessarily have to have a clicker. Once she learns what Yes! means, you can use that as a marker.

We have one dog that was a submissive urinator... The key is to NOT acknowledge it. When she comes up to you, ignore her for a couple minutes. I wouldn't even look at her. After a couple seconds, hold out your hand to her and see what she does. If she pees, do NOT yell, chide, punish her in any way. She's already anxious.

The book, The Other End of the Leash, would be a good general book for you to read so you understand what dogs are thinking and why. It's not expensive.
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Me personally i think in her previous home she was beaten but i do know that on the prevoius house she was with 2 great danes bigger than her so they may have be teasing /intimindating her and she might have put me in that position but we do have a bond she will play with me sometimes and ill will throw a tennis ball she go get it
I want to address two things here.

1) She doesn't necessarily have to have been abused in her previous home. She may have always done this and it was just never handled correctly.

2) She knows you are not a dog. She is not putting you in the same 'position' that the danes may have been in regarding pack order. Dogs know we are not dogs. There are alot of dominance theories out there that are just crap.

Treat her fairly
Let her play. Dogs live to play! Take her out every day and play!
Love her. Sit quietly on the floor with her. I think this makes us less intimidating to them.
Do NOT lean over her. That is a sign of dominance.

Order that book I mentioned above. I think you will learn a lot from it.
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Me personally i think in her previous home she was beaten but i do know that on the prevoius house she was with 2 great danes bigger than her so they may have be teasing /intimindating her and she might have put me in that position but we do have a bond she will play with me sometimes and ill will throw a tennis ball she go get it
Dogs that show submissive behavior usually haven't been beaten. It is a genetic nerve issue. Even if she was mistreated, try to forget her baggage and move on.
I would work on confidence building, get her into some type of training venue. Praise, and success in the little things should be the focus to work on.
If she'll play tug with you, just a little tug, that is great...let her win and run her around while she prances proudly. Build upon that. Tease her up with a toy, and let her feel like she controls it(flirtpoles are great for this)
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