Drive and Brakes and Steering-Suzanne Clothier

**Cassidy's Mom** · 01-09-2012, 11:36 PM

What do you think of this new article about drive in working line dogs?

Drive and brakes and steering | Suzanne Clothier

For those who aren't familiar with her, Suzanne is a German shepherd breeder, as well as an amazingly intuitive trainer. She wrote the book Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening our Relationships with Dogs.

Amazon.com: Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships with Dogs (9780446525930): Suzanne Clothier: Books

KZoppa · 01-09-2012, 11:56 PM

its certainly a different way to look at it. She makes a great deal of sense about looking at the whole package instead of just a part.

Just like the Don't Judge A Book By It's Cover

**Samba** · 01-10-2012, 01:29 AM

Great article. That control and responsiveness can be bred for and the drive to work still be impressive. Plenty of unbalanced breeding going on, I imagine.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 01-10-2012, 09:59 AM

I thought it was great too, but then I'm a huge fan of hers. I'd love to hear more opinions, especially from working line people - bumping this up!

crackem · 01-10-2012, 10:20 AM

There is some unbalanced breeding going on, but more often than not I see totally unbalanced training. Making dogs as crazy as they can get just to get a bite at a rag, then after 2 years of nothing but making dogs frantic they try to add control, and other such stuff.

01-09-2012, 11:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	Drive and Brakes and Steering-Suzanne Clothier What do you think of this new article about drive in working line dogs? Drive and brakes and steering \| Suzanne Clothier For those who aren't familiar with her, Suzanne is a German shepherd breeder, as well as an amazingly intuitive trainer. She wrote the book Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening our Relationships with Dogs. Amazon.com: Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships with Dogs (9780446525930): Suzanne Clothier: Books Amazon.com: Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships with Dogs (9780446525930): Suzanne Clothier: Books __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

01-09-2012, 11:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
KZoppa Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Maryland kinda missing CO Posts: 13,832	its certainly a different way to look at it. She makes a great deal of sense about looking at the whole package instead of just a part. Just like the Don't Judge A Book By It's Cover __________________ The more people I meet and talk to,the more I love my dogs and their intelligence. www.krystalscollarcreations.weebly.com Riley GSD/BC 1/10/05 Zena GSD 6/1/03 Shasta GSD 5/5/10 Last edited by KZoppa; 01-09-2012 at 11:58 PM.

01-10-2012, 09:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	I thought it was great too, but then I'm a huge fan of hers. I'd love to hear more opinions, especially from working line people - bumping this up! __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

01-10-2012, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	Great article. That control and responsiveness can be bred for and the drive to work still be impressive. Plenty of unbalanced breeding going on, I imagine.

01-10-2012, 10:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
crackem Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,195	There is some unbalanced breeding going on, but more often than not I see totally unbalanced training. Making dogs as crazy as they can get just to get a bite at a rag, then after 2 years of nothing but making dogs frantic they try to add control, and other such stuff.

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