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Old 12-03-2011, 02:24 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't think Cesar trains dogs. He is not a dog trainer.
I have seen episodes where he has visited a friend who trains dogs, but he doesn't actually do any of it himself.
We have taken our dogs to obedience training to heel, sit, down, come, stay etc but I have never seen Cesar use any of those dog training commands. Or try to get them to fetch or speak or rollover or search and rescue or guide dog or anything that I would consider training.
His stated technique is "this is what I expect from you dog". And as he says, a (dog) pack leader doesn't ask the other dogs to sit or lay down or try to train them in any way either.
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I don't really watch him. I look for different opinions and advice from him and other people. He isn't the best dog person and certainly isn't the worst, but he is credible to a degree.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:45 AM   #43 (permalink)
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By reading this thread I kind of wonder how many people who are criticizing him have seen more than just a few of his shows and have seen his recent episodes. I haven't seen him use the alpha roll since the first season, and he's doing a lot with treats now.
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I think as with any trainer, he has good and bad going for him.

The thing I give him ALOT of credit for is going into situations where HE is the dogs LAST resort, and helps by saving the dogs life.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:09 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't think Cesar trains dogs. He is not a dog trainer.
I have seen episodes where he has visited a friend who trains dogs, but he doesn't actually do any of it himself.
We have taken our dogs to obedience training to heel, sit, down, come, stay etc but I have never seen Cesar use any of those dog training commands. Or try to get them to fetch or speak or rollover or search and rescue or guide dog or anything that I would consider training.
His stated technique is "this is what I expect from you dog". And as he says, a (dog) pack leader doesn't ask the other dogs to sit or lay down or try to train them in any way either.
I never realized that, but you are right, he really doesn't give commands.

I used to watch his show all the time - I was an addict of sorts. But I started getting tired of everything being about walks & backpacks. (I even went out and bought a doggie backback for our golden!) Sure, walks are important but they aren't the solution to everything.

I think the main thing that CM has going for him is his lack of fear. Attitude IS everything when it comes to dogs, I believe.
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I don't think Cesar trains dogs. He is not a dog trainer.
I have seen episodes where he has visited a friend who trains dogs, but he doesn't actually do any of it himself.
We have taken our dogs to obedience training to heel, sit, down, come, stay etc but I have never seen Cesar use any of those dog training commands. Or try to get them to fetch or speak or rollover or search and rescue or guide dog or anything that I would consider training.
His stated technique is "this is what I expect from you dog". And as he says, a (dog) pack leader doesn't ask the other dogs to sit or lay down or try to train them in any way either.
He is not a trainer, he is a behaviorist. He alters the behavior of the dog by altering the behavior of the owners. He rehabilitates dogs and trains people.
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while Caesar has educated a lot of dog owners and saved a lot of dogs from being PTS, it is TV, what we don't see are the ones he can't help, but as a whole I would say he has brought dog trainer more into the light, like Rin Tin Tin back in the 20's and 30's and this is something that is needed, pretty much everyone wants a well trained or well behaved dog, myself, I don't care much for his methods, but it does work,

I do give Ceaser a thumbs up for coming to the U.S, becoming a citizen, learning the language, and showing that the "American Dream" Does work
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I have the beginning sequence of his show stuck in my head now, thanks!
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I have the beginning sequence of his show stuck in my head now, thanks!

You're welcome. I would trade that for Bye, bye, Miss American Pie that is stuck in MY head.
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By reading this thread I kind of wonder how many people who are criticizing him have seen more than just a few of his shows and have seen his recent episodes. I haven't seen him use the alpha roll since the first season, and he's doing a lot with treats now.
I agree, now he only uses Alpha rolls rarely. it is mostly positive reinforcement. There was this episode about a an owner with a vicious fluffy white dog, she used to shout and "pretend" to be tough.
His advice was for her to be herself, the dog knows she's pretending to be someone she's not and considers that weak, and to talk to her in her normal sweet whispery voice.
and it worked, once she started cooing over her and speaking very softly the dog started to respond.
And that's just one example. I watch all Cesar's episodes, I don't use his old techniques in general cause i mostly never needed them, but i do go by his rules.
Exercise, discipline then affection.
I only used his method training my first GSD to walk on leash, ie, confident, shoulders back, relaxed leash and never look back, and it worked. And i use it for all the dogs i walk too. Never had a problem.
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