Ivan Balabanov or Leerburg?

ponyfarm · 10-26-2011, 12:48 PM

Hi everyone! I hope to get a puppy in 4 months. (fingers crossed!) I would like to get some puppy training DVDS. I like to train with lots of praise, play, clicker, treats and making it fun for both of us, with also use of the prong, as well.

I will be training the puppy for an active obedience companion. (For lack of better term) Also hiking, swimming, pet, and all around buddy!

With that training style in mind..which do you think I would prefer and why?

**Lauri & The Gang** · 10-26-2011, 12:52 PM

Ivan all the way!!!

Motivate, don't force.

BlackPuppy · 10-26-2011, 12:59 PM

I have Ivan's first 2 DVDs. I really recommend them for a drivey dog, even if I don't 100% use his methods. I also like clicker training, especially for puppies. But I found, as I train my 4th dog, that I can't use the same method for all of them.

For a young puppy, I'd start with clicker training. It makes training go so fast.

wildo · 10-26-2011, 01:05 PM

Crap- sorry ponyfarm, I forgot about this. You can borrow my Ivan DVDs any time. Just let me know when you wanna get them...

IllinoisGSD · 10-26-2011, 01:23 PM

How much are Ivan's DVDs? I've been looking to pick up some good training material.

wolfstraum · 10-26-2011, 04:38 PM

go for the Michael Ellis videos.....there is a lot more bang for the buck...and not really dissimilar styles.........the Ivan ones are pretty limited

Lee

IllinoisGSD · 10-26-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfstraum

go for the Michael Ellis videos.....there is a lot more bang for the buck...and not really dissimilar styles.........the Ivan ones are pretty limited

Lee

Lee, which ME DVDs do you suggest buying?

wolfstraum · 10-26-2011, 05:32 PM

start with the first one - training with food.....then the marker I think is the second one....I have done seminars with both Ivan and Michael....their methods are very similar...but Michael communicates more info rahter than just work dogs like a typical training day - very similar in the videos too....there is more info and substance in the ME videos

Lee

ponyfarm · 10-26-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfstraum

start with the first one - training with food.....then the marker I think is the second one....I have done seminars with both Ivan and Michael....their methods are very similar...but Michael communicates more info rahter than just work dogs like a typical training day - very similar in the videos too....there is more info and substance in the ME videos

Lee

I kind of feel like Ivan maybe is a great dog trainer, but not a great teacher (of humans, I mean!). I can always tailor the Micheal Ellis info to be more postitive if needed. Thanks for the information!

onyx'girl · 10-26-2011, 06:49 PM

You can rent most of them from bowwowflix for $10.95 a month(one at a time rental) for more$ you can rent a few at a time. I think it is great, because I don't want to invest in DVD's but watch them a few times/send them back...get another when that one is returned. I LOVE bwf!

10-26-2011, 12:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
ponyfarm Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 548	Ivan Balabanov or Leerburg? Hi everyone! I hope to get a puppy in 4 months. (fingers crossed!) I would like to get some puppy training DVDS. I like to train with lots of praise, play, clicker, treats and making it fun for both of us, with also use of the prong, as well. I will be training the puppy for an active obedience companion. (For lack of better term) Also hiking, swimming, pet, and all around buddy! With that training style in mind..which do you think I would prefer and why?

10-26-2011, 12:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 12,525	Ivan all the way!!! Motivate, don't force. __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Tazer HIC CGC – Cocker Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Sasha - GSD mix Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - Fuego (Chinese Crested)

10-26-2011, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
wildo Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,230	Crap- sorry ponyfarm, I forgot about this. You can borrow my Ivan DVDs any time. Just let me know when you wanna get them... __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL1-R, CL1-S, CL1-F, CGC

10-26-2011, 04:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	go for the Michael Ellis videos.....there is a lot more bang for the buck...and not really dissimilar styles.........the Ivan ones are pretty limited Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

10-26-2011, 05:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	start with the first one - training with food.....then the marker I think is the second one....I have done seminars with both Ivan and Michael....their methods are very similar...but Michael communicates more info rahter than just work dogs like a typical training day - very similar in the videos too....there is more info and substance in the ME videos Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

10-26-2011, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
BlackPuppy Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,420	I have Ivan's first 2 DVDs. I really recommend them for a drivey dog, even if I don't 100% use his methods. I also like clicker training, especially for puppies. But I found, as I train my 4th dog, that I can't use the same method for all of them. For a young puppy, I'd start with clicker training. It makes training go so fast.

10-26-2011, 01:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
IllinoisGSD Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 186	How much are Ivan's DVDs? I've been looking to pick up some good training material.

10-26-2011, 06:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,611	You can rent most of them from bowwowflix for $10.95 a month(one at a time rental) for more$ you can rent a few at a time. I think it is great, because I don't want to invest in DVD's but watch them a few times/send them back...get another when that one is returned. I LOVE bwf!

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