question for e-collar people

zyppi · 08-01-2011, 09:51 PM

Has anyone used the e-collar for avoidance of a movable object?

My reason would be to train the dogs that when, say a dedicated object like orange cone, was in an area that they should not go there.

But an area that is normally a common space.

To be used when little grandchildren are playing on the floor or when you have company that aren't 'dog' people over - put cone at entrance to the room only on these times and allow dogs there otherwise.

The cone becoming an object to avoid.

Think it would work?

Liesje · 08-01-2011, 09:58 PM

It would probably work but seems like you'd have to use the "positive punishment" quadrant which means associating the cone with the shock. I'm not against punishment and corrections but in this case I might be more likely to get a certain mat/towel/rug for the dog and train the dog a "go to mat" command so they have to lie down and stay on the mat.

onyx'girl · 08-01-2011, 10:10 PM

I have the Invisible fence brand system and we also got the portable barrier system. I never use it, we bought it for our pond and it wasn't needed, but if the dog is trained on an e-fence, the barrier system works well. The beep will have them back off as they learned with the fence perimeters beep.
You could try to teach it without an e-collar using a key word, and telling them back if they get too close to the cone. Dogs are smart enough, I think they would learn it quickly without compulsion.

**MaggieRoseLee** · 08-01-2011, 10:13 PM

Why bother with all that?

I'd either just work on a 'go lay down' command to get your dog to stay in it's dog bed... or just crate the puppy.

Much easier and more chance to work well and NOT mess up your dog. Have to be careful with the e-collar and you don't need it for everything.

Rerun · 08-02-2011, 10:54 AM

Yes it would work but at what cost? I agree with the "place" command over this, for the example and use you're looking for.

- Also not against punishment and one of my dogs is wearing an e-collar as I write this, so take the above for what it's worth.

08-01-2011, 09:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
zyppi Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Back home to Louisiana! Posts: 4,946	question for e-collar people Has anyone used the e-collar for avoidance of a movable object? My reason would be to train the dogs that when, say a dedicated object like orange cone, was in an area that they should not go there. But an area that is normally a common space. To be used when little grandchildren are playing on the floor or when you have company that aren't 'dog' people over - put cone at entrance to the room only on these times and allow dogs there otherwise. The cone becoming an object to avoid. Think it would work? __________________ Anne Nothing is as simple as it seems or as complicated as we make it~ Attitude is everything -- Pick a good one! Sofie AKA Ussina vom Haus Brezel Jack von Jagenstadt Tatty - Burmese bad cat

08-01-2011, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	It would probably work but seems like you'd have to use the "positive punishment" quadrant which means associating the cone with the shock. I'm not against punishment and corrections but in this case I might be more likely to get a certain mat/towel/rug for the dog and train the dog a "go to mat" command so they have to lie down and stay on the mat. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

08-01-2011, 10:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,611	I have the Invisible fence brand system and we also got the portable barrier system. I never use it, we bought it for our pond and it wasn't needed, but if the dog is trained on an e-fence, the barrier system works well. The beep will have them back off as they learned with the fence perimeters beep. You could try to teach it without an e-collar using a key word, and telling them back if they get too close to the cone. Dogs are smart enough, I think they would learn it quickly without compulsion. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

08-01-2011, 10:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,215	Why bother with all that? I'd either just work on a 'go lay down' command to get your dog to stay in it's dog bed... or just crate the puppy. Much easier and more chance to work well and NOT mess up your dog. Have to be careful with the e-collar and you don't need it for everything. __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

08-02-2011, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,608	Yes it would work but at what cost? I agree with the "place" command over this, for the example and use you're looking for. - Also not against punishment and one of my dogs is wearing an e-collar as I write this, so take the above for what it's worth.

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