can you have 2 go free commands?

pets4life · 06-05-2011, 04:56 PM

i marker train so i mark positive with a yes and follow with a treat right after

yes is also used as a go free command sometimes

is it okay to still use the okay go free command though while you are in a heel or something when you are not going to reward your dog? can you have 2 commands that mean the samething?

Elaine · 06-05-2011, 06:52 PM

I use yes as a marker with release and it's always followed by a reward of some sort. I use okay as an all purpose release. I would never want to confuse my dog by sometimes rewarding my marker word and sometimes not. At that point, it quits being a marker.

**Samba** · 06-05-2011, 07:30 PM

It all depends on what you mean by "free". Are you asking if you can have two words that mean the same thing to a dog? If that is so then yes you can. My dogs know their behaviors in German, Englsh and in signals.

As far as what the free word means you can determine that. While I use yes to mark during training and it does mean the behavior has ended, it does not mean "free" in my training venacular. If we are still training, I still expect engagement after the marker. When all training is done, then one is free. It is not a happy word for my dogs who like training!

If a word is my marker, I use it for marking only and it is consistently followed with reward. If yes is a word that people use frequently in other ways in training, we encourage them to choose a more unique word as a marker.

pets4life · 06-06-2011, 04:03 PM

yes eliane exactly that is why i wanted to keep okay go free for times when i free my dog from a heel or a stay when i am not going to reward her because always reward after a mark (yes)

free means she is allowed to go fre do as she pleases if she is free from a heel on a walk in a park she can go to the full length of the long line and walk in the water or bushes frolic in the flowers whatever she likes while we hiking

if she is free in a down stay she can do anything she wants

Stosh · 06-06-2011, 05:08 PM

In herding we use "that'll do"- which means we're done. I've started using around the house and it's working really well. Even when we're playing and I say that command, it means we're done playing and go find something else to do.

06-05-2011, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
pets4life Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 465	can you have 2 go free commands? i marker train so i mark positive with a yes and follow with a treat right after yes is also used as a go free command sometimes is it okay to still use the okay go free command though while you are in a heel or something when you are not going to reward your dog? can you have 2 commands that mean the samething?

06-05-2011, 06:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Elaine Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,785	I use yes as a marker with release and it's always followed by a reward of some sort. I use okay as an all purpose release. I would never want to confuse my dog by sometimes rewarding my marker word and sometimes not. At that point, it quits being a marker. __________________ Elaine and the herd

06-05-2011, 07:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	It all depends on what you mean by "free". Are you asking if you can have two words that mean the same thing to a dog? If that is so then yes you can. My dogs know their behaviors in German, Englsh and in signals. As far as what the free word means you can determine that. While I use yes to mark during training and it does mean the behavior has ended, it does not mean "free" in my training venacular. If we are still training, I still expect engagement after the marker. When all training is done, then one is free. It is not a happy word for my dogs who like training! If a word is my marker, I use it for marking only and it is consistently followed with reward. If yes is a word that people use frequently in other ways in training, we encourage them to choose a more unique word as a marker. Last edited by Samba; 06-05-2011 at 07:34 PM.

06-06-2011, 04:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
pets4life Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 465	yes eliane exactly that is why i wanted to keep okay go free for times when i free my dog from a heel or a stay when i am not going to reward her because always reward after a mark (yes) free means she is allowed to go fre do as she pleases if she is free from a heel on a walk in a park she can go to the full length of the long line and walk in the water or bushes frolic in the flowers whatever she likes while we hiking if she is free in a down stay she can do anything she wants

06-06-2011, 05:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	In herding we use "that'll do"- which means we're done. I've started using around the house and it's working really well. Even when we're playing and I say that command, it means we're done playing and go find something else to do.

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