should i do protection training

juliejujubean · 06-03-2011, 01:55 PM

My pup has been doing great with basic obedience so far. when she has all of her vaccinations she will be doing S.T.A.R. puppy and CGC. I have noticed with her though, the best tug drive i have ever had with any of my gsds in the past. (sheeba, longhair black and tan- german purebred, dad got her when i was a baby when he was assigned to germany)(champ, white gsd, pound rescue) (King,black and tan, byb, died young

) and now my dads newest dog (blitz, sable) All of them had ball drives, but my little girl dia could care less about that. we have a rope that she will play tug with me and i literally can pick her up off of the ground, thats how serious she gets with it. being as my bf/fiance is going active duty army as a 2nd lt, and i know he will be deployed, would it be best for me to train her in protection. It is something i have never done but i think she would absolutely love it

any opinions, and reasons i should not. please be honest

**MaggieRoseLee** · 06-03-2011, 02:00 PM

Best thing would to locate a club in your area and go along for a session to see if it's what you would like to continue with.

Fact is, you have to progress with ALL phases of the training so need to practice/learn tracking, obedience and the protection work. So having people in the club be able to help with all 3 different skills is key.

juliejujubean · 06-03-2011, 02:04 PM

i don't think there is a club here in hattiesburg devoted to the breed, there is one on the coast where my dad stays, Mississippi Coast German Shepherd Dog Club... i can look into it there.

juliejujubean · 06-03-2011, 02:05 PM

im looking on the akc website, says this club is obedience, specialty and rally.. what is included in specialty?
also, all i see are actualy competitions, do these clubs just have meetings to where people get together and practice and such?

GSD Fan · 06-05-2011, 12:52 AM

There's a GSD club in Jackson too. They might be able to help you.

Elaine · 06-05-2011, 10:59 AM

Are you talking about doing SchH or personal protection training? You aren't going to find either one at a GSD club or on an AKC website. I would suggest you look for a SchH club near you and see if you like it.

neiltus · 06-05-2011, 03:07 PM

SchH or true "Personal" protection.

Personally I think that if you need to train a dog as a tool for Personal Protection, that under this scenario you don't need to be asking forum members for their thoughts on what you need.

Also, I would question the need for it to anyone who asked me if they needed this. Your dog is not a dog anymore. It is a weapon and a liability.

ShenzisMom · 06-05-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by neiltus

SchH or true "Personal" protection.

Personally I think that if you need to train a dog as a tool for Personal Protection, that under this scenario you don't need to be asking forum members for their thoughts on what you need.

Also, I would question the need for it to anyone who asked me if they needed this. Your dog is not a dog anymore. It is a weapon and a liability.

Wrong. PP dogs are not a liability if trained correctly. Thanks for trying though!

OP: Get a gun and alarm system. As trained as a dog may be, it is always a chance that the 1% where you need him to act, he won't. I'd recommend going and watching sessions of pp work. It is not all fun and games.
However, schutzhund is a sport. You should check it out too. Very serious sport, mind you.

neiltus · 06-05-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathmetal

Wrong. PP dogs are not a liability if trained correctly. Thanks for trying though!

It is a liability for someone who has to ask a forum if they need to train their dog this way...

PP has it's place. Just like gun ownership. If you need it for defense, you don't need second opinions on it. It is not something you commit halfway to.

Now, having said that, there was an instance where a PP dog bit a teen in Dallas. The dog's owner made some comment like "I did not know my dog could/would do that.

To the OP, go see some PP dogs before making the decision. See what they can do and what is needed to handle them.

MicheleMarie · 06-05-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by neiltus

It is a liability for someone who has to ask a forum if they need to train their dog this way...

PP has it's place. Just like gun ownership. If you need it for defense, you don't need second opinions on it. It is not something you commit halfway to.

Now, having said that, there was an instance where a PP dog bit a teen in Dallas. The dog's owner made some comment like "I did not know my dog could/would do that.

To the OP, go see some PP dogs before making the decision. See what they can do and what is needed to handle them.

PP dogs come to schutzhund once in awhile. They seem exactly the same to me-though i wouldn't know anything deeper. i originally got my dog for companion/personal protection and i wanted to do agility as a hobby-my trainer suggested mondioring-so that's what we are doing now

06-03-2011, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
juliejujubean Master Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 824	should i do protection training My pup has been doing great with basic obedience so far. when she has all of her vaccinations she will be doing S.T.A.R. puppy and CGC. I have noticed with her though, the best tug drive i have ever had with any of my gsds in the past. (sheeba, longhair black and tan- german purebred, dad got her when i was a baby when he was assigned to germany)(champ, white gsd, pound rescue) (King,black and tan, byb, died young ) and now my dads newest dog (blitz, sable) All of them had ball drives, but my little girl dia could care less about that. we have a rope that she will play tug with me and i literally can pick her up off of the ground, thats how serious she gets with it. being as my bf/fiance is going active duty army as a 2nd lt, and i know he will be deployed, would it be best for me to train her in protection. It is something i have never done but i think she would absolutely love it any opinions, and reasons i should not. please be honest __________________ Diamond, Mar 19, 2011 Pictures

06-03-2011, 02:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,215	Best thing would to locate a club in your area and go along for a session to see if it's what you would like to continue with. Fact is, you have to progress with ALL phases of the training so need to practice/learn tracking, obedience and the protection work. So having people in the club be able to help with all 3 different skills is key. __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

06-03-2011, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
juliejujubean Master Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 824	i don't think there is a club here in hattiesburg devoted to the breed, there is one on the coast where my dad stays, Mississippi Coast German Shepherd Dog Club... i can look into it there. __________________ Diamond, Mar 19, 2011 Pictures

06-03-2011, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
juliejujubean Master Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 824	im looking on the akc website, says this club is obedience, specialty and rally.. what is included in specialty? also, all i see are actualy competitions, do these clubs just have meetings to where people get together and practice and such? __________________ Diamond, Mar 19, 2011 Pictures Last edited by juliejujubean; 06-03-2011 at 02:08 PM.

06-05-2011, 10:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Elaine Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,785	Are you talking about doing SchH or personal protection training? You aren't going to find either one at a GSD club or on an AKC website. I would suggest you look for a SchH club near you and see if you like it. __________________ Elaine and the herd

06-05-2011, 12:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
GSD Fan Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MS Posts: 1,128	There's a GSD club in Jackson too. They might be able to help you.

06-05-2011, 03:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
neiltus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 233	SchH or true "Personal" protection. Personally I think that if you need to train a dog as a tool for Personal Protection, that under this scenario you don't need to be asking forum members for their thoughts on what you need. Also, I would question the need for it to anyone who asked me if they needed this. Your dog is not a dog anymore. It is a weapon and a liability.

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