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Old 08-24-2014, 12:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to socialize pup in a SAFE way??

Hello everyone my pup is 2 weeks today. Obviously I can't pick her up until 8 weeks so in the mean time I have just been doing hours of research.

One thing I am a bit worried about is socialization in a SAFE way.
I want my dog to be exposed to as many social situations as possible especially being around other dogs...I have seen to many people not do this when there dog was young and as a result thry can't get anymore dogs because there dog now doesn't get along with other ones..

How do I bring her around dogs and places without worrying about getting diseases?????
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Use dogs that you know are calm and safe and vaccinated.

Puppy classes are always good as well. As long as vaccines are required.

Most important is exposure, your pup does not need to play with or interact other strange dogs. Just be exposed and praised for good behavior.
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What about a dog park? I just got my first GSD pup. So I'm still new at all this. But with other breed dogs I would just walk them in areas I knew other dogs lived. I also took puppy classes and went to the dog park after they were fully vaxed. I plan on doing the same things with Kimber.
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No dog parks. Please no dog parks.

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What do you wish you had acclimated your dog to as a puppy?

Socializing isn't about the puppy meeting all dogs and all people. It's about exposing him to different things.

Stairs - I wish I had known! Carry him to the bottom and put him down on the third step to let him go down by himself.

Other dogs - ONLY dogs you know are vaccinated and safe with puppies.

People - limit the physical. They don't need to pick your puppy up and wrestle with him. Just let them treat him and pet him.

Strange animals - just let him watch and reward when calm.

Trash Day!! - All those big black monsters just sitting there waiting to pounce! Let him sniff it and reward him.

Different surfaces - go to a playground with bridges and tires and grate surfaces.

Don't put her down on the ground until she's fully vaccinated in strange places. You can carry her, put her in a cart.

Are you close to your breeder? Do they do training? that would be a good place since the puppy came from there and is acclimated to that environment.
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Dog parks aren't a good idea. almost no trained dogs go there, people don't know how to read their dogs, or maybe they do but just don't care that their dogs dominate other dogs. actually some people enjoy it, it makes them feel good about themselves that they own a dominant dog.

I don't go to dog parks, i go to a public park that has off leash hours and now I go really late when no one is there.
but when I first got my dog I'd go right after 9 and 5-7 dogs were there. omg

one guy had a boxer that would bully all pups and the owner would come up to all new people and say that his dog like to dominate pups.
I think he was proud.
I was clueless at first and believed that 'they should work it out'
after a few times there my dog started barking and lunging at any dog he saw and just recently, after more than a year of trying everything and anything and spending over 1k on trainers, I was able to fix it

it'd be much easier if I never let it get that far.

I have many more stories of endless humping and other stupidity that goes on there and this is a large unfenced park with no more than 5 dogs at a time.
I can only imagine what goes on in real dog parks.
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In general just use common sense. Don't push the puppy. Expose them to many things but don't expect EVERY puppy to be ROCK solid with EVERYThing the very first time. Help give the puppy confidence by encouraging them (IMO I think encouraging is different from coddling).

As far as disease, use areas that are not frequented by dogs. In my family, many people have never had dogs and will make an exception for a puppy so I've been allowed to bring a puppy to Sunday dinner or a family gathering. I work for a college so I bring my puppies to the college campus where there are all manner of sights, sounds, and people but generally no other dogs.
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Here is an excellent blog post!!!

https://www.facebook.com/monique.ans...52242314026246

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The Biggest Mistake Of All: SOCIALIZATION.
Dogs need to be socialized. That means that dogs need to SEE the world, and handle it with social grace. We need to teach them the skills and habits necessary for participating within our society. Unfortunately socialization got misunderstood as interacting and playing. While puppies do need to play with other puppies, this is a teenie, tiny piece in their education, but somehow became the only piece.
Here is a socialization list that I have been compiling for the last three puppies that I raised. This is the type of thing that I teach in my puppy class.
1) Ridden in a wheelbarrow.
2) Many, many bridges of different surfaces, widths, heights, gaps inbetween planks etc. She can now take a slippery plank over my pond at a gallop, and stay on!
3) Climbing Driftwood at the beach for footing, balance, and learning how to use her body
4) Climbing rocks at botanical beach. This rock is thin sheets, so you need to focus on your feet and balance.
5) Sooke Home Hardware
6) Pet Smart where she shopped - but be careful of overly-friendly strangers who may not heed your instructions
7) The Gorge Waterway past heavy traffic, an odd pedestrian bridge, people, bikes, dogs, joggers etc
8) Canadian Tire, with a slippery, shiny entrance that she didn't even notice
9) Many types of floor surfaces
10) Only one dog-park trip with most pass-bys done in my arms, and several on the ground with very safe, kind dogs.
11) One walk with a friend and her dog
12) Children, and sat outside playgrounds
13) Hung out with chickens, ducks, and goats. When the goats were really scary, she was on my lap being protected
14) Been tossed into a giant box stuffed full with Teddy Bears, then got covered with Teddies and had to crawl her way out
15) Had towels thrown over top of her head. We have now graduated to entire sheets
16) Been held for cuddling and kisses every night
17) Had her toe-nails worked on weekly, with a dremel
18) Been cuddled and kissed while she chews on her bones
19) We walk at a new beach, forest or Mountain every single day. We are yet to repeat a walk.
20) Got stuffed into my jacket so I was 'wearing her', and we went for a bike ride with the big dogs running beside us
21) Is crated every single day for varying lengths of times
22) Has travelled in two vehicles, in different types of crates or seating arrangements.
23) Has been to Dintner Nurseries, and made friends with all the staff inside.
24) Because she is so friendly, she has had to learn the art of walking past people without always saying hello. We walk past at least four out of five people without greeting, otherwise her friendliness with be annoying when she is big and strong.
25) Maybe one of the most important things: She can pee and poop on grass, gravel, asphalt, or cement, on a leash, or free. This makes traveling very simple.
26) Every day she is presented with small problems that she must solve... how to get her ball that rolled under the couch, how to get the marrow out of her bone, how to stay on a bridge without falling off, how to climb over a downed tree that is higher than she thinks she can climb. I help her but NEVER do it for her. And I only help enough so that she has the confidence to do the rest. If she puts in no effort, I will not help her.
27) She is learning to come running back fast on her name, no matter the distraction. If she is running with my dogs, saying 'hello' to the chickens, seeing a person that she want to run to - 'Come' means chase me.
28) The Boardwalk in Sooke. It is a walk on a raised bridge - and is a fabulous experience for puppies.
29) She is learning that scratching up at, and holding onto my adult dog's heads while you passionately kiss them is not allowed.
30) Play Dates with trusted dog-friends
31) Walk on all types of stairs.
32) Been in a boat
33) Go swimming with a slow steady introduction to water
34) gone into the petting zoo to see all the animals, and more importantly, all the children
35) Walked on the weird decks at Fisherman's Wharf and explored this fun place. Be careful your puppy does not get eaten by the seals - and no, I am not joking. Don't allow them on the edge, peering into the water, just incase!
36) Been to two friend’s houses for dinner, and met their dogs when they were calm so that they would not scare her
37) Watched an adult herding sheep. Her eyes almost popped out of her head
38) Been in a kayak, and knows how to jump on and off
39) Been in a hammock
40) Sat on my lap in a swing
41) Gone down a slide, in my lap
42) Numerous games of soccer, including me tackling the ball from her
43) Stayed in hotels, and another house, during vacation
44) This polite puppy has learned to demand what she wants from me. This will be removed when she is less polite!
45) Travelled in the child section of a shopping cart, all around Home Depot
Socialization means teaching life skills. I exposed them to every possible skill that she might need to be a functional adult. With all of the exposure and success comes a level of confidence and bravery; they will get to the point where they believe they are invincible. Even when they get into trouble, they know I am right there behind her to help her with her difficulties.
When they feel overwhelmed or scared, we do the experience in my arms, rather than on the floor. By not asking them to brave it, they watch from up high, and then starts wriggling like a mad things wanting to get down and do it themselves. Rather than asking them to try it, by taking that option away and making them feel safe they have to then demand that they be allowed to try it. Because it is their choice they are then brave as soon as they are put down on the ground.
My last puppy never did have one 'bad' experience. Unfortunately, it will happen, and even when it does, they will know that I am there to protect and help them. As they go on their adventures in the world, both good and bad, we are a team, and I have their back.
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