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RachelRees00 08-22-2014 01:42 PM

Toilet Advice
 
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-back-yard.jpgSo as said on the new members thread, yesterday we had our first 17 week old pup called Stanley, his mother is German Sheperd and father is Belgium Sheperd.He is not house trained at all, his manner is delightful, he is beautiful. We house trained Stella our 2 1/2 year old French Bulldog when we had her 6 months ago and also Douglas another Frenchie (may he RIP) when we rehomed him at the age of two, unfortunately he was killed at age 5.I would welcome any advice and tips to help achieve house train Stanley as Im beginning to think it's going to be a little more difficult this time around, I am sniggering to myself writing this after seeing him skidding on his urine on the kitchen tiles and he looked like Bambi on ice lol , thanks for any feedback

RachelRees00 08-22-2014 03:04 PM

May I also add that I have read the previous thread on potty advise and that I am not crate training my pup, not for any particular reason good/bad it's just not the way I have with the others.Some of the comments were of interest but every 30 mins of going out I have tried, in all fairness it has at this point been only just over 24 hours of having him and that is not giving him much time at all really to even get used to his surroundings let alone adapt to anything... gosh its early days!!! Im being to eager and very unfair, but still will really appreciate the non crate advise thanks

Lilie 08-22-2014 03:22 PM

The world won't come crashing down if you don't utilize a crate. It just makes things so much easier when training a pup, easier for you and your pup.

What are you utilizing at night or when you aren't home, to contain your pup?

RachelRees00 08-22-2014 04:14 PM

The kitchen with a tiled floor, we are expecting accidents during the night until the pup is a lot older, during the night the main living area is seperated with a childs safety gate, both the rehomed Frenchies were able to distinguish between the kitchen floor (which is near the backyard main door) more or less straight away even though being out door dogs, but I guess were more mature to distinguish between indoor and outdoor too.But we are open to all ideas its just that the crate isn't something that we have tried or needed to, thanks for your response Lilie much appreciated

Liesje 08-23-2014 11:11 PM

Are you letting him out at night? If not, it will take longer if he gets in the habit of soiling the kitchen. I keep my pups within arm's reach at night, so when I hear them fuss I can take them out. Little by little they sleep longer and longer on their own until they no longer need to go out at night.

Susan_GSD_mom 08-23-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Liesje (Post 5939545)
Are you letting him out at night? If not, it will take longer if he gets in the habit of soiling the kitchen. I keep my pups within arm's reach at night, so when I hear them fuss I can take them out. Little by little they sleep longer and longer on their own until they no longer need to go out at night.

I agree. Many of my pups slept in my bed, tethered to my wrist. You get the 'mom' thing going, and you wake up at the slightest fussing. Also, during the day you must get them out every time they eat, drink, play or wake up from sleeping. Most of my GSds (I'm going to go out on a limb here and change that to ALL) were pretty reliable after a week or less. Adult rescues were there in a day or two.

The most trouble I have ever had with a GSD was with the former brood bitch i have now. She was 5 when I got her, in a kennel most of her life, and also had 3 litters of puppies. It took a while before she was foolproof, and it also took a while before she stopped eating poop. She's very smart, though, and she's totally house broken now, I think it took about a month. And it was that long, I believe, because in her mind, it was just not a big deal, she just didn't see the sense in having to wait until I took her out. We now see eye to eye on that, lol.

Susan

Unforgiving 08-24-2014 05:26 AM

Susan, what training method did you use to make them so good within a week? Also, what do you mean by good? Are the dogs at home alone at all, like whilst you work?

Liesje 08-24-2014 08:54 AM

I will also say that I know some people prefer to set an alarm at night and feel that if they let the dog out when he fusses, it gives the dog the impression he can go out whenever he wants. I've never had this problem. I try to keep the puppies active before bed so they are legitimately tired. If they fuss, I take them out and they always go potty. I've never had a puppy that would mess around outside and not go, and then go once back inside. All my dogs, even my 8 year old dog, go outside and take care of business first. Anyway, I've found that at first puppies can be inconsistent at night so an alarm wouldn't really help me. Sometimes they need to go out 3 times, sometimes just once about halfway through. I want to encourage them "telling" me so I let them wake me up whether I've been asleep for 2 hours or 6 hours. They've all been sleeping through the night by 4-5 months of age, even the hardest ones. My last puppy had worms so it was really important he get to go out any time he felt the urge.

Susan_GSD_mom 08-24-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unforgiving (Post 5940089)
Susan, what training method did you use to make them so good within a week? Also, what do you mean by good? Are the dogs at home alone at all, like whilst you work?

I have always been fortunate in that my dogs were rarely home alone. There was always someone home when we brought a puppy home. For a number of years it was my two sisters and I, then when one sister remarried, my other sister and I have shared a home since. I worked, but she has had serious health issues and was unable to work, so she was home during the day. We were always able to keep up the routine--take puppy out when they wake up, when they eat, when they drink, and after they play. It becomes second nature for them. You also keep them either tethered to you or crated. With mature dogs, such as a rescue who needs house training, you can use the same methods. You never punish for accidents, but praise and reward when they put it outdoors.

For me, GSDs have always been so intelligent that they pick up on it very soon. They are also clean animals, and won't soil their living areas when they are happy, healthy and content.

Susan

RachelRees00 08-25-2014 05:01 PM

Proud of my big boy, already he has mastered the dirtying to outdoors during the day, he knows the yard is for poo, really impressed with how quickly he is picking it up. Now the weeing (he seems to be doing this whenever, wherever he wants), something tells me hes going to surprise me with this too over the next couple of days :)


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