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Old 07-21-2014, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know there are so many posts about loose leash walking and how to train but I just wanted to know if I am expecting too much out of my pup or if this needs to be taught now to avoid pulling when he is too big. I have an almost 4 month old who walks perfect at my side about half the time and then will randomly try and bolt backwards, to the side, in front of my legs, or dart forward on walks. I've tried being a "tree" where I stop whenever he pulls in any direction and he will stop and sit by my side until I start to walk again. As soon as I take one step, he lunges forward and starts to pull again. He has no interest in any treats or toys on a walk and would rather smell everything along the way. Whenever a person is running by or walking another dog, he gets excited so I have him sit and "leave it" until it passes by. All in all I think he does pretty well. But the pulling and lunging randomly during the walk is a problem because he is already almost too strong for me! Little dude's got muscle and I hold the leash tight so he is right by my side the whole time but my arm goes numb lol. I definitely do not want to try prong or choke collars on him so any advice on what I could try would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-21-2014, 05:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can't hold the leash "tight" to keep him under control. That is accomplishing the opposite of what you want.

A link is in here on loose leash walking, your guy is most likely not as bad or as big yet but the "principle" still apply post 8:
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thank you so much! I will definitely be trying that method from now on. I appreciate the insight because it did feel as though we were just doing something wrong
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It sounds like you understand the basics be a tree but if the leash is always kinda tight, it's hard for the dog to tell the difference!

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I mean I don't ALWAYS hold it tight. If he's walking perfect-which happens rarely lol- he gets lotsa slack. I'm trying to show him that if he walks well we don't have to be struggling. Also what's your advice on harness vs collar? We are using a harness to protect him but I feel he may actually walk better without that around his whole body. However, for the times he pulls I get very worried about his throat. I very much appreciate your opinion. It's nice to not have someone tell me to put a choke collar on a 4 month old to "stop this behavior now". I could never do that to a puppy.
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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One of the guys on here had input on the harness. In general though "I" would say "NO" not with a puppy! Harnesses are used for pulling,among other things!

You have no control with a harness, once a dog is trained to walk properly on a loose leash, you can then use a harness or no leash at all (with proper control!)

And understood "not a tight leash all the time!" More insight if the leash is tight, it tells the dog we have a situation here..."be ready!"
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Clicker - teach him to release to the pressure of the leash. You'll have to do this in a quiet place with little distraction at first.

When he pulls, slowly back up until he gives and lets the leash go slack. It will be minimal at first but it will happen. Click and treat. You want to treat AT the position you want him to be in while walkng so his reward line is there. He will learn that the reward is at your hip, not in front of him.

Personally, I would introduce the prong collar with this. NOT a choke collar. But a prong. They really are NOT med evil torture devices.

He's young so give him a little leeway but you need to teach this now so you dont' end up on your face later. You also should be doing engagement games with him so he learns to play and focus on you, not everything else.

Do a google search of this. You'll come up with many videos
"youtube dog training engagement games"
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