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TEZPUR1976 07-10-2014 04:23 AM

What is protection training?
 
I expect the following from my dog

1. It should bark whenever a person arrives at my gate and tries to enter. Stops baking on command.

2. If the intruder tries to force into the campus or tries to enter the campus by crossing boundary wall
a.the dog barks,
b.runs to the target, and jumps on the target
c. holds and pulls his limbs or clothes (like tug of war, only tug replaced by the target). Leaves on command.

Are these what is meant by protection training?

What is the minimum age one can start training to fulfill the above objectives?

Can any gsd achieve them?

zetti 07-10-2014 04:45 AM

The foundation & drive building can start in early puppyhood with tug games & motivational obedience using food or a toy. Confidence building is good, though the right kind of dog is naturally self confident.

And no, not any GSD can do protection work. It requires the right combination of genetics & training. The dog has to have strong nerves, which are inherited along with sufficient drives. And, you have to work with a responsible ethical trainer.

Too many self proclaimed "protection trainers" shouldn't be in the business.

martemchik 07-10-2014 08:42 AM

Most times what people consider protection training is actual bite work training and the control of the dog during this process. The ability to turn the dog on/off in threatening situations. Teach the dog to bark…get yourself in front of a dog doing a bark and hold, it’s quite the test of one’s bravery. It’s also mostly in regards to the sport of Schutzhund or another bite sport. So not “true” protection per say…but with the right dog, I wouldn’t test the abilities.

There was a very long thread about “will an untrained dog protect me” with a bunch of people talking about their dogs reacting in a situation like the one you described. Others, who have done the training will tell you not to put your life in the hands of a dog that hasn’t been trained or at least tested to see if it has what it takes to face down a human.

I’ll assume that if this is a pet…you’ll be teaching it to not mouth, not touch people with its mouth. This is contradictory to what you want a dog to do in a threat situation. So if eventually you expect your dog to defend you, or your campus, you’ll have to teach it that there are situations in which that other response is acceptable.

This is all also greatly influenced by the dog’s natural drives/abilities/nerves. Without seeing your dog’s disposition, seeing it react in certain situations, it’s very hard to tell what it would do.

zetti 07-10-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by martemchik (Post 5756329)
Most times what people consider protection training is actual bite work training and the control of the dog during this process. The ability to turn the dog on/off in threatening situations. Teach the dog to bark…get yourself in front of a dog doing a bark and hold, it’s quite the test of one’s bravery. It’s also mostly in regards to the sport of Schutzhund or another bite sport. So not “true” protection per say…but with the right dog, I wouldn’t test the abilities.

There was a very long thread about “will an untrained dog protect me” with a bunch of people talking about their dogs reacting in a situation like the one you described. Others, who have done the training will tell you not to put your life in the hands of a dog that hasn’t been trained or at least tested to see if it has what it takes to face down a human.

I’ll assume that if this is a pet…you’ll be teaching it to not mouth, not touch people with its mouth. This is contradictory to what you want a dog to do in a threat situation. So if eventually you expect your dog to defend you, or your campus, you’ll have to teach it that there are situations in which that other response is acceptable.

This is all also greatly influenced by the dog’s natural drives/abilities/nerves. Without seeing your dog’s disposition, seeing it react in certain situations, it’s very hard to tell what it would do.

If I had a dollar for every time someone with an untested, untrained GSD told me "But I KNOW he'd protect me in real life if someone attacked me", I'd be typing this from my mansion.


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