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Alli.baby 02-25-2014 09:16 PM

Ally used a pro trainer & I'm unhappy!
 
Allys only 5.2 months old. This is our first time using a professional trainer. First of all I'm very upset at the way she used the pinch collar to get my puppy to heel. I think we can use a different technique besides fear and pain to get our puppies to obey and listen to us. Help because I don't want to bring her back! I actually refuse to bring her back there. Any suggestions?? Thanks in advance! :confused:
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LoveEcho 02-25-2014 09:17 PM

If you're not comfortable with the trainer, then don't go back. Do some research to see who uses the methods you prefer/want to learn/understand, ask for suggestions from people on here, your vet, anybody, as a starting point.

boomer11 02-25-2014 09:18 PM

did your dog heel? did she still seem energetic? if yes to both then bring her back and let the trainer work. being open minded is your best friend.

Zlata 02-25-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveEcho (Post 5090738)
If you're not comfortable with the trainer, then don't go back. Do some research to see who uses the methods you prefer/want to learn/understand, ask for suggestions from people on here, your vet, anybody, as a starting point.

Agreed. There are many trainers out there, all who have different skill sets and utilize different techniques. It sounds like something like clicker training might be up your alley. In your search for a new trainer, I would look for something along those lines, or someone who uses a rewards-based approach.

Alli.baby 02-25-2014 09:24 PM

I'm not comfortable at all. She eventually did heel but only after strangling her. I just can't bare seeing any animal mistreated especially mine! I'm still pretty pissed about the situation! :mad:

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David Winners 02-25-2014 09:29 PM

If you aren't comfortable with the trainer, go somewhere else. I would suggest next time that you attend some training sessions before taking your dog so you can see how the trainer works before letting them handle your dog.

What are your training goals? Pet OB, sport, bitework?

crackem 02-25-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boomer11 (Post 5090754)
did your dog heel? did she still seem energetic? if yes to both then bring her back and let the trainer work. being open minded is your best friend.

coming from an open minded person and one that has used and will continue to use a prong collar, if YOU aren't happy with how training is going I absolutely would not go back. I don't care how happy and energetic a puppy is, I see zero reason to use a pinch collar to teach heeling anyway.

use a pinch on a dog that has a good foundation and they learn consequence for actions they already know. Use a pinch to keep a position it hasn't had any foundation or learning in and all you do is create a dog more worried about leaving your side than performing a behavior.

If all you ask your dog to do is heel and not much else, then all is good. If you tend to move on further and have a dog that will work in unison and on it's own and not be worried about making a wrong step, the future holds a lot more learning potential when you use a pinch after a foundation is layed, not to limit behavior it hasn't learned yet.

nicky 02-25-2014 09:31 PM

Wish I would of listened to my gut when I was uncomfortable with the first trainer I went to. Maybe you could tell her exactly what bothered you and see what she has to say?
I hate pinch collars and use a prong.

Alli.baby 02-25-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by David Winners (Post 5090826)
If you aren't comfortable with the trainer, go somewhere else. I would suggest next time that you attend some training sessions before taking your dog so you can see how the trainer works before letting them handle your dog.

What are your training goals? Pet OB, sport, bitework?

Basic obedience and behavior. I'd like her to walk off leash also. Nothing to fancy just the basics. I agree with watching some sessions before we sign her up again. Thank you.

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onyx'girl 02-25-2014 09:32 PM

I agree with David, and personally, I'd never let a trainer handle my dogs leash(been there~ done that, learned!)


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