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Old 02-01-2014, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Walk time is impossible if my husband and I aren't walking less than 10 feet apart. Mishka starts crying and looking at whichever one of us is behind. I read on here a while back that it is a herding thing.... But I can't get any training done, and I feel like she will grow to hate me for keeping her away from what she wants. I've even tried her favorite toy ( she is more tug driven than food driven... Although I have also tried using food to distract)... Nothing fazes her.


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Old 02-01-2014, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why don't you and your husband take turns walking her separately for a while?

Each walk the usual amount of time you do and then after a while walk her together swapping the lead so that she gets used to both of you walking her and don't put up with any carry on from her, just put her on a short lead and keep walking forward.

Also, they don't like their pack being separated, ie if you are all walking and one of you goes off in another direction. Both mine will stop and wait for the pack to be together again, however is different if just one of us starts off the walk while the other stays at home.
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I agree that you may want to sometimes walk her with both of you, and sometimes alone. Same with car rides and socialization trips. Not good that she thinks it's an ISSUE when everyone isn't all together all the time. Should be normal you are 3 and just as normal when everyone is paired up.

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I'll just add - put your husband up when you work on training your dog... That will probably work better for the training side of things.
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I agree that you may want to sometimes walk her with both of you, and sometimes alone. Same with car rides and socialization trips. Not good that she thinks it's an ISSUE when everyone isn't all together all the time. Should be normal you are 3 and just as normal when everyone is paired up.

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Thanks for the advice! I have been working with her. She knows heel really well now.. And knows an attention command. I'm also working on her being comfortable when one of us is out of the room.





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I'll just add - put your husband up when you work on training your dog... That will probably work better for the training side of things.
She has to learn to listen to him too. We train some with just me, and some with just him, and some together.





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Old 02-02-2014, 06:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Just an idea. Maybe some others will give their opinion on this:

I would set up a training scenario where you can control the distance from the dog to the other person, and show the dog that being calm is what works to gain access to that person. I know you have tried something like this, but I think a measure of greater control is in order to enable the dog to succeed.

Let's call it "unrestrained recall."

Place the dog in heel position with person A, in a sit, with person B standing on the other side of person A from the dog. 3 in a line. Person B, person A, dog; all facing front.

Wait for the dog to be calm. Once the dog is calm, person B takes one step forward. If the dog remains calm, it gets released to person B for quiet praise. If the dog breaks or becomes overly excited, it is called back to heel position and placed back in a sit.

After 10 consecutive successful repetitions of this, increase the distance that person B moves to 2 steps.

After 10 consecutive successful repetitions at 2 steps, increase the distance to 4 steps and so on, increasing the distance as the dog remains successful. If at any time the dog starts breaking the sit or becoming excited, go back to the previous distance and reinforce good behavior there until it is solid.

The desired end state would be playing hide and seek with the dog, where person B goes a great distance into the woods, observed by the dog, and the dog remains calm until released.

At no time should person B go to the dog if it fails. The only time the dog gains access to person B is if it remains calm throughout the exercise. Person B should not call the dog at any time or encourage excitement in the dog when the dog gets there, just calm praise if that. Getting to person B is the reward, so there shouldn't be a big party at the meeting point.


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I don't have specific advice but I will say that if the dog is struggling then lower your expectations and work up from there. So start practicing handing off the leash inside the house, simply calmly walk towards the other and hand it over and walk away without hesitation (you'll have to gauge distance yourself, see what the dog can handle), use a tag team method as it were. The more you practice and the dog realizes there's no need for alarm the less they will react, then move slowly outside and continue to practice staying calm. Keep it light and reward often and you should hopefully see improvement soon
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