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Msmaria 01-25-2014 04:49 PM

12 month old not happy during training
 
Dexter and I are doing an intermediate behavior class. Positive and some corrections. I have learned to correct properly, even though hes a really soft dog. He isnt completely shutting down now, but he seems just to be going through the motions and not engaging with me like before. Even his sits are now more to the side and not facing me. He listens well at home and has fun other places but the moment we get to class, he looks depressed . I need some help on what to do. Im trying to make the class more fun, but theres no time to reward his behavior with his tug toy, as the class is already going into their next exercise.

MadLab 01-25-2014 05:06 PM

With a soft dog verbal corrections can be enough.

Are you sure he knows what is being asked of him before he is corrected into it.

Him going into shut down is probably a form of avoidance of the training methods applied.

You could be better off watching the class with your dog and using your time at home to complete the tasks using the tug or other reward system your happy with.

Msmaria 01-25-2014 06:31 PM

Yes im sure he knows the command. For example a come and sit in front of you. I am saying the command along with adding the sit signal. Im excitedly calling him to me but instead of his usual happy self he comes and then sits in front but at a side and looks away from me. I hope im making sense.

Msmaria 01-25-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MadLab (Post 4903914)
With a soft dog verbal corrections can be enough.

Are you sure he knows what is being asked of him before he is corrected into it.

Him going into shut down is probably a form of avoidance of the training methods applied.

You could be better off watching the class with your dog and using your time at home to complete the tasks using the tug or other reward system your happy with.

I could do that, im sure they wont mind

onyx'girl 01-25-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Msmaria (Post 4903850)
Dexter and I are doing an intermediate behavior class. Positive and some corrections. I have learned to correct properly, even though hes a really soft dog. He isnt completely shutting down now, but he seems just to be going through the motions and not engaging with me like before. Even his sits are now more to the side and not facing me. He listens well at home and has fun other places but the moment we get to class, he looks depressed . I need some help on what to do. Im trying to make the class more fun, but theres no time to reward his behavior with his tug toy, as the class is already going into their next exercise.

I would step back then and not really go with what they are doing....obviously they are moving too fast? Reward him, play with him, get him engaged with you. If the instructor isn't willing to let you do that, then maybe this class isn't a good fit. I train at a place where a bunch of us just drop in. No instructors, we're just training inside together with distractions. I see so many obedience people doing things that are so boring for the dogs, then they do ear pinches to get them to conform(go arounds at a fast pace keeping up with the handler as an example)
So far behind the times with their techniques.
The dogs are doing factory work, not enjoying it at all. If training isn't fun for the dog it isn't fun for the handler either~what's the point?

doggiedad 01-25-2014 07:14 PM

make the class fun for both of you. make all of the
training fun for both of you whether it's at class or
anywhere else. instead of treating with a tug how about
usuing a food treat since the class is moving so fast.
give your dog a verbal praise, pet your dog, use a
happy voice, etc.

Baillif 01-25-2014 07:14 PM

Im with onyx. With a soft dog the reward especially the retrieve are good de stressors to the aversives especially if they are just getting into them for the first time. Class might not be a good fit. How long has he been training with pressure?

Like doggie said use those emotions

Msmaria 01-25-2014 07:33 PM

Hes been in the class about 3 weeks. I agree were not having fun like we used to with our puppy trainer and our nosework class. Its awesome to see the dogs that have graduated with the hand signals with downs and stays.

Msmaria 01-25-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggiedad (Post 4904578)
make the class fun for both of you. make all of the
training fun for both of you whether it's at class or
anywhere else. instead of treating with a tug how about
usuing a food treat since the class is moving so fast.
give your dog a verbal praise, pet your dog, use a
happy voice, etc.

Hi doggie dad , ive tried the food. He did great with the food reward in his previous class, but lately in class in doesnt work as well. He ignores it and looks away. He gets very distracted with the squirrels and after a correction listens but then he wont look at me.

Msmaria 01-25-2014 08:28 PM

[quote=doggiedad;4904578]make the class fun for both of you. make all of the
training fun for both of you whether it's at class or
anywhere else. instead of treating with a tug how about
usuing a food treat since the class is moving so fast.
give your dog a verbal praise, pet your dog, use a
happy

he really loves his ball now more than anythimg


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