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Old 01-25-2014, 11:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm beginning to train my 8 week old girl, but I'm wondering if I should be training her with a leash or not. Currently not using one, and I train her before eating times to keep her engaged and wanting the kibble. She hasn't ran off or anything yet during the sessions, but it's only our second day. If should be leash training anyone have a training collar recommendation for an 8 week old pup? Thanks.


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Old 01-25-2014, 11:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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At that age I would only put on a flat collar or a harness. You really don't need a leash yet. Work on your relationship first. Look into engagement training.
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Old 01-25-2014, 11:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd only use a leash if she's always distracted. If she's interested in training, I don't see the point for one.
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I do most of my puppy training at home off leash. I do like to have a lightweight leash attached to the flat collar, so I can step on it if necessary, but I want my puppies to pay attention to me and work with me, and not just because they are restrained by a leash. That requires me to be as motivating and fun as possible, so puppy WANTS to engage with me.

Obviously, outdoors I use a leash, for safety reasons.
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I do almost all of my training off leash. I want a dog reliable off leash, so I don't even introduce a leash until they're much older unless it's really necessary.

My border collie is 1.5 years and the only time he's on a leash is to go to the vet, some training classes, or the store. To/from the car, work, exercise at the park, etc. he's off leash and I can control him really well... because I never learned to rely on a leash!
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I never used a leash with my puppy either...his recall is 99% always has been. My female pup I did use a leash on and her recall is horrid. I know her personality is a huge part of it...she isn't a very biddable dog.
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If my memory serves ...at 8 weeks they were like glue...no leash required. But just getting a pup used to a leash for some has been problematic.

I used to make my pups hide their eyes, count to 20, I'd hide and darned if they didn't find me every time.

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If my memory serves ...at 8 weeks they were like glue...no leash required. But just getting a pup used to a leash for some has been problematic.

I used to make my pups hide their eyes, count to 20, I'd hide and darned if they didn't find me every time.

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Haha nice my girl's seems to be a little more independent. Doesn't respond to a recall kind of like Onyx's pup. She does sit when told to so far though. Anyways I found some engagement stuff I really like and want to try out. Was only asking about the leash thing because I'm reading Art of Raising a Puppy, and from what I'm getting they seem to like the leash. I'm going to keep her off of it. I tried it on her a couple days ago to keep from running around everywhere and she threw the biggest fit. 😳

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If you allow the dog to learn that the leash is an essential part of communication, it will need it in the future. Many people tug on a leash to get the dogs attention and then give a command. This physical cue will override any verbal cure you are attempting to use, and we'll become part of obedience for the dog.

Until much later in training (roughly 6 months), when the rules of leash pressure are shown to the dog, I don't use the leash for anything but management. If I need to get the dogs attention, I use my voice and movement to become more interesting than any distraction.

Engagement and focus on the handler are the first step in the training process, and until the pup is pushing and offering behaviors, I don't begin any formal training.

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I have never used a lead to train with except for recall on a 30' lead. Lisl as Ossie both were and are more than willing to learn and stay engaged without a lead.
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