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Malevolentia 12-14-2013 08:44 AM

Being Boisterous?
 
I've always been told that to have a well trained dog you need to be the one in charge. The head of the pack, so to speak.

Normally I'm quite boisterous with dogs. I'll play fight with them when they're getting play-fightey and I'll pull their legs and try to put them on their back and hold them their (Not violently and I do my best not to hurt them). If they're jumping up on me I won't just tell them down I'll push them down by their heads and just generally shove them about.

Is this the right thing to do? Should you playfight with your dogs (Assuming you come out on top every time) or is it better to stay well away from confrontation in any form?

doggiedad 12-14-2013 08:56 AM

forget the alpha human or dominance over your dog. i would
never pin my dog down or put him on his back. teach your dogs
not jump on you or other people. stop pushing your dogs around
to show dominance.

doggiedad 12-14-2013 09:03 AM

to have a well trained dog you need to train.

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Originally Posted by Malevolentia (Post 4669170)

>>>>> I've always been told that to have a well trained dog you need to be the one in charge. <<<<<


The head of the pack, so to speak.

Normally I'm quite boisterous with dogs. I'll play fight with them when they're getting play-fightey and I'll pull their legs and try to put them on their back and hold them their (Not violently and I do my best not to hurt them). If they're jumping up on me I won't just tell them down I'll push them down by their heads and just generally shove them about.

Is this the right thing to do? Should you playfight with your dogs (Assuming you come out on top every time) or is it better to stay well away from confrontation in any form?


Malevolentia 12-14-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by doggiedad (Post 4669234)
to have a well trained dog you need to train.

I know this but I've heard that your dog won't take to training very well if they think that they are in charge. I don't pin them down like completely prevent them from moving, I'll just roll them onto their back and "attack" (Basically tickle) their belly and they have to struggle to get up, but you can tell they enjoy it.

Regardless, thanks for clearing that up. :)

Blanketback 12-14-2013 11:34 AM

I like boisterous play too, but the thing to keep in mind is that this is playing - so when you say you shove your dog off when he jumps on you then you have to know that this is more playing. Don't be upset if the dog doesn't 'down' because he's really enjoying the physical contact with you. This might be counter-productive, depending on what your ultimate goal is: to have a dog that doesn't jump on you. Or maybe not, some people don't mind it at all.

Sansa's Mom 12-14-2013 12:44 PM

The whole "dominance/pack leader" training that cesar milan popularized is based on erroneous wolf studies done in captivity. It has little relevance to how wolves really behave, let alone dogs. He has no formal education and his experience consist of living on a farm with dogs. So yeah, ignore that stuff. Your dog isn't trying to 'dominate' you, he is playing with u. He doesn't think you are his pack leader; he knows you aren't a dog, and dogs don't really have much of a hierarchy, even in the wild. If he gets too rough while playing, you need to teach him a settle down command. It works well to stop the play and ignore him when he gets too wild.

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