dog is bored?
so ive an 8 moth old boy
hes currently in obedience school which is working amazing for him, taught him heel, sit, down, stay, up within 2 weeks without a clicker or treats. but now our class homework is to start teaching them hand signals from a distance (lay down and sit up).
i'll ease him into our little 15 minute sessions with some of the things he already knows, hes great with commands as long as im at his side, but once I get to the point where hand signals get brought in, he just ignores me and acts like I don't even exist. i'll have treats or toys in my hand to entice him...but hes being stubborn and just stares off at the walls.
if I put a leash on him from a distance, give him the signal, wait 3 seconds then give the leash a bit of a tug to pull him down, he'll go down with ease, but like I said, once the leash is on the ground out of my hand...he ignores me.
he has literally 100+ toys since my other dog would play with toys non stop and my brothers gf works at petsmart, so she'd bring him toys home every other day. but my pup zeus just doesn't get interested in treats or toys while training. i'll give him tons of praise when he gets it correct, but that doesn't even seem to impress him.
any ideas/tips? or is he just being a stubborn little brat lol...whatever it is, hes gotta learn this for Saturdays class lol.
Maybe he needs more time?
I have normally trained my dogs to understand hand signals first, then I add verbal commands. When it comes to giving commands from a distance you really need the dog's focus to be on you and also to slowly and gradually increase the distance. If he doesn't do as you ask you usually have to take a step back.
If he's not interested in any kind of reward, I think you need to fix that first before expecting him to continue doing well in training. It's impossible to train or get reliability from a dog who isn't motivated. If you already need a leash correction to get him to obey, it's likely that he won't care to perform once you are in a setting where you can't use the leash and he'll know you can't get him. I'd say that alone means you need to take a step back and work on those issues before worrying about whether making a deadline or not.
I have a dog I did try to rush to meet deadlines and it backfired big time. I lost her during my personal race to make her know everything before a set date. Although she can learn everything I teach her and knows everything in the first obedience test I can't trial her yet as she isn't reliable. It's a lot harder to backtrack and fix reliability problems than to take the time to do them right the first time.
I hope you find out what makes your dog click and that you can continue to do well :)
when my dog was learning the basic commands hand signals
were always along with the verbal command. at some point
i started to to use verbal command sometimes and hand signals
sometimes. when given verbal commands or hand signals i started
withe dog being close to me. i would stand in front of him and give
him the command. i made sure the command was given once. then
i put him in position. after he started learning the command i would
take one step backwards. one step lead to two steps and so on.
then i started getting out of his view. to get out of his view
i started slowly. i would place him beside the front door
of the car. i would walk to the front of the car and duck down.
then i started hiding behind a tree. then i place him front of the house
and i walk to the side of the house. when we walked i would have him
"sit" or "down" and i would hide behind a tree or duck behind some bushes.
i slowly added distance and time. in the house i would tell him to stay in the
kitchen and i would walk to the bedroom or bathroom. start with
a short distance and slowly work your way to being farther away
and add in distractions. i like adding in distractions slowly.
with the hand signals start giving them with the being close to you
and slowly start adding distance and distractions.
The reason engagment training with TREATS and toys is so important when starting out.... is because it builds in the relationship and joy for training we need throughout our dogs training career.
If, from the start, we aren't making it fun with reward THE DOG understand (and makes them crazy loving to train) then when the traing gets harder our dogs will start checking out, sniffing, ignoring us and going s l o w l y.
So if we don't use treats/toys, don't reward enough and/or believe just praise is enough then it's fairly common to start having our pups check out and training get much more difficult.
I'd back off for a bit on 'training' and go back to the basics of 'engagment' and what a REAL reward is for THE DOG. A real reward will get our dogs moving, dying to start training, and that can't wait to learn the next thing to do it FAST. If we aren't getting that, then we have NOT learned what a real reward is for pup and we need to look at that.
BTW, for an 8 month old dog, I'd have 3 five minute training sessions rather than one 15 minute, unless that 15 minutes included all the play and engagement training I was making a part of each and every training session.
Motivational foundation is KEY
Read this --> http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-training.html
Are you still giving the verbal command when you give the nonverbal one? I would go back to that point for a few weeks. I corrected my GSD after a few weeks if she didn't perform the act because she wasn't paying attention. It helps because now she is always paying attention when we are working.
I've taken to interspersing play with training to keep Daisy (9 m/o) occupied. Last night after it cooled down we played fetch for a while. After 8-10 good returns, she would get bored with it, so I'd go to working on commands. After ten reps or so, she'd get bored, we'd fetch some more. That seemed to work well with keeping her occupied and not getting bored with one thing, either play or learning.
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