A serious cry for help

dylano · 11-21-2012, 05:07 AM

I know this may sound silly or minor or my fault but ive tried everything i could. Kai can NOT walk on the lead properly. He pulls all directions, pulls at people (children and they get scared). This isnt an aggressive mannor but just wants to say hi.

On to what i have done. I took kai to puppy classes mainly for leash training and to meet other dogs. It made no effect on kai walking on the lead even after doing what they told me to. Ive watched countless videos on leash training. (when he pulls, walk the other way..reward the good walking ignore the bad). Ive being doing this for the past 3 months and ive seen no difference.

Im started to get frustrated on walks now because im not enjoying them. He pulls so much that i hear him wheezing. I do not enjoy the walks and i dont think he does. At the time i cannot afford a 1 - 1 traininer as in london they are stupidly overpriced (£90-£150 ph!!)

Please im in need of help, im in need of honet responces thanks so much in advance

**jocoyn** · 11-21-2012, 06:46 AM

How old is Kai?

**JakodaCD OA** · 11-21-2012, 07:41 AM

from past posts I'm getting he was 6 months old on the 5th.

How much exercise is he getting? I am talking running around exercise? I would burn off some of that energy before you take him for a walk and then walk him.

What kind of collar are you using? I know prongs are illegal over there (I think), how about a martingale?

I also read in one of your past posts Kai has been pooing in the house? it sounds like he needs more OUTSIDE time, and more exercise ..

When I have a yanking dog, I usually do this, put the dog in the position you want, start to walk, if he pulls, immediately change directions, SAY NOTHING< change directions, if he pulls again, CHANGE DIRECTIONS,,when the dog is IN the position you want, PRAISE & TREAT, otherwise say nothing..

Yes you might get dizzy from changing directions, you want to work on this with NO distractions, later lead up to distractions.

Work on it a few times a day, short sequences, when he doesn't pull reward/treat, and always end on a positive note

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 11-21-2012, 07:52 AM

Have you tried the silky leash method? Leash Walking Ahimsa Dog Blog

I use a nice martingale harness for fosters who pull. It gives me more of a horse feel and I like that, the leash is more like reins to me and I can use finger control to communicate down the leash.

Jrnabors · 11-21-2012, 08:33 AM

To be honest if I couldn't use a prong collar or E-collar I wouldn't be able to have mine. If it is a high strung dog like I have, I'm not sure how you get them under control, because if they are as hyper as mine it is hard to "catch them being good" to reward them, with no effective means of correction.

dylano · 11-21-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jocoyn

How old is Kai?

hes just turned 7 months old, sorry forgot to add that

dylano · 11-21-2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jrnabors

To be honest if I couldn't use a prong collar or E-collar I wouldn't be able to have mine. If it is a high strung dog like I have, I'm not sure how you get them under control, because if they are as hyper as mine it is hard to "catch them being good" to reward them, with no effective means of correction.

That sounds like kai,the end of the walk when hes tired is the only calm bit that i enjoy. Which collar did you prefer? or are they just the same

dylano · 11-21-2012, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanKBBMMMAAN

Have you tried the silky leash method? Leash Walking Ahimsa Dog Blog

I use a nice martingale harness for fosters who pull. It gives me more of a horse feel and I like that, the leash is more like reins to me and I can use finger control to communicate down the leash.

i cant seem to find a martingale harness for sale in the uk?

BMWHillbilly · 11-21-2012, 09:37 AM

My lab is a puller so I opted to go with the Freedom No Pull Harness. Made all the difference in the world and he is 115lb of pure muscle. With that said, I will also start Jazzy with a harness. I have better control and eliminates the wheezing from when they pull to hard with a collar.

Bear GSD · 11-21-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dylano

i cant seem to find a martingale harness for sale in the uk?

I highly reccomend a front ring harness. It instantly stops the pulling without damaging your dogs neck. Here's a link to a front ring harness on amazon.com in the UK:

Non Pull Harness PREMIER Easy Walk Dog Harness LARGE RED: Amazon.co.uk: Pet Supplies

This is not the brand I use, but I couldn't find the one I use on the Amazon Uk site.

A prong collar would also work (depending on your pups age), but I would try this first.
Good luck

11-21-2012, 05:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
dylano Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: London, Heathrow Posts: 219	A serious cry for help I know this may sound silly or minor or my fault but ive tried everything i could. Kai can NOT walk on the lead properly. He pulls all directions, pulls at people (children and they get scared). This isnt an aggressive mannor but just wants to say hi. On to what i have done. I took kai to puppy classes mainly for leash training and to meet other dogs. It made no effect on kai walking on the lead even after doing what they told me to. Ive watched countless videos on leash training. (when he pulls, walk the other way..reward the good walking ignore the bad). Ive being doing this for the past 3 months and ive seen no difference. Im started to get frustrated on walks now because im not enjoying them. He pulls so much that i hear him wheezing. I do not enjoy the walks and i dont think he does. At the time i cannot afford a 1 - 1 traininer as in london they are stupidly overpriced (£90-£150 ph!!) Please im in need of help, im in need of honet responces thanks so much in advance

11-21-2012, 06:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,830	How old is Kai? __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

11-21-2012, 07:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,520	from past posts I'm getting he was 6 months old on the 5th. How much exercise is he getting? I am talking running around exercise? I would burn off some of that energy before you take him for a walk and then walk him. What kind of collar are you using? I know prongs are illegal over there (I think), how about a martingale? I also read in one of your past posts Kai has been pooing in the house? it sounds like he needs more OUTSIDE time, and more exercise .. When I have a yanking dog, I usually do this, put the dog in the position you want, start to walk, if he pulls, immediately change directions, SAY NOTHING< change directions, if he pulls again, CHANGE DIRECTIONS,,when the dog is IN the position you want, PRAISE & TREAT, otherwise say nothing.. Yes you might get dizzy from changing directions, you want to work on this with NO distractions, later lead up to distractions. Work on it a few times a day, short sequences, when he doesn't pull reward/treat, and always end on a positive note __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

11-21-2012, 07:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
JeanKBBMMMAAN The Rescues Rule Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22,777	Have you tried the silky leash method? Leash Walking Ahimsa Dog Blog I use a nice martingale harness for fosters who pull. It gives me more of a horse feel and I like that, the leash is more like reins to me and I can use finger control to communicate down the leash. __________________ Help IMOM help Pets www.imom.org Help a rescue: wish some big dogs a Happy Howliday! www.bigdogsbighearts.blogspot.com Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight. Albert Schweitzer

11-21-2012, 08:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jrnabors Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 64	To be honest if I couldn't use a prong collar or E-collar I wouldn't be able to have mine. If it is a high strung dog like I have, I'm not sure how you get them under control, because if they are as hyper as mine it is hard to "catch them being good" to reward them, with no effective means of correction.

11-21-2012, 09:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
BMWHillbilly Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Posts: 101	My lab is a puller so I opted to go with the Freedom No Pull Harness. Made all the difference in the world and he is 115lb of pure muscle. With that said, I will also start Jazzy with a harness. I have better control and eliminates the wheezing from when they pull to hard with a collar.

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