Teaching Pass Auf

[marinehoney]

I have a female shepherd who is 7 months and I eventually want to teach her to attack, or be aggressive with intruders. Alot of break ins where I live. We want to teach her how to be a guard dog. Does anyone have any experience, advice, tips, stories about this? Thank you.

[Mrs.K]

So you have problems with the following:

Also, my 7 month old female shepherd does not bark. We just got her a few weeks ago. I have tried everything to get her to bark and she just wont, it is concerning me. Last question, she bites! Playfully, but it HURTS. When we try to get her to stop she just comes at us more forcefully. How do we get her to stop biting, start barking, and what color type is she? Thanks in advance! There are more pictures of her in my profile album.

You don't even know what color type she is, you have no experience with the breed, you don't know how to re-direct a landshark and playful bite, yet you want her to attack and to be more aggressive?

If you can't handle the current dog on your hands, what makes you think that you can handle a private protection dog?

[marinehoney]

I said we "eventually" want to train her this way. I know its not a good idea until she follows even the most simple commands religiously. I do have experience with the breed, just not as a puppy. All of our shepherds before this one were adult female rescues who were abused/neglected. So we didnt want to teach them those commands. I dont appreciate the implication that I cant/wont be able to handle my dog. I would just like to hear positive replies. Thanks though.

[x0emiroxy0x]

The only way to do this is to pay a trainer a lot of money.

You don't want a dog that learns to bite and does so on walks
You don't want a dog that learns to bite but won't let go
You don't want a dog that learns to bite and attacks your kids when they grab you

etc etc etc

Personal Protection Dogs cost anywhere from 12,000 to 85,000 dollars. I have no idea what it would cost to train one somewhere.

Why don't you buy a gun/mace/knife?

[ShenzisMom]

Positive replies only eh? Sorry, I don't coddle people with aspirations of a personal protection dog when by their own admission don't have much experience.

Join a schutzhund club. With hands on experience they will help you.

[marinehoney]

Never said I wanted to train her myself, was just looking for some advice or stories. It is starting to look like personal protection training is controversial and you people dont agree with it. I am also not looking to be "coddled" i am just not looking for negativity or an arguement, there are other threads for that.
A personal trainer who did an eval on her said she would train her with an electric collar, but I wasnt comfortable with that method of training. She was charging 810.00 though and not thousands. I have also seen some training facilities around here that do it for a couple grand. I was kind of hoping to have some kind of involement in the training process though.

[marinehoney]

We have a 40 caliber pistol, and some kitchen knives...however, I think a dog is much more effective in scaring off an intruder.

[onyx'girl]

First thing to do is have your obedience foundation solid...then you can move on to the next phase. I would get with a PSA, SDA, SchH club for direction. This is nothing you want to do on your own and electric is not how I'd train it....
Get your foundation training done first and foremost. I personally wouldn't go w/ a private trainer for this, better to be with a group(club) so you know the methods are long lasting. It isn't something a dog can do with 6 classes under them. Or a 2 week board and train.

[marinehoney]

Experience with a dog must come from somewhere right? I am just starting out like every other dog trainer in the world had to start out. Its not wrong to want to learn something.

[ShenzisMom]

You should be involved in every aspect of the training. Which is why I said you should look into Schutzhund. I have nothing against having a dog for Personal Protection but it does take someone with dedication, time, and patience. If I seem mean, it is because I have seen too many people go for a PP dog and end up with a destroyed animal and a lawsuit on their hands, because their ill trained animal did not listen to them at the most crucial time...