I hear you, but I'm ignoring you :)

Anthony8858 · 10-17-2011, 07:43 AM

She's only 3.5 months, so I'm giving her some slack.

However, I see the devilish look in her eyes, as SHE decides that she wants to ignore her recall, name, or whatever it is I'm asking of her.
I would call her name, she would turn to look at me, give me a devilish grin, and continue on her pursuit of whatever it was I was trying to stop her from doing.

What is the properly way of enforcing a name call, or recall, when they go into the "I hear you, but I'm ignoring you" mode?

ShenzisMom · 10-17-2011, 08:03 AM

Put her on a long line, or a tether to yourself. Have YUMMY treats with you. This way, if she runs, you can still catch her, or redirect her

nitemares · 10-17-2011, 08:20 AM

i would use a long lead and plenty of yummy treats, then this

Dog Training Tips: Come When Called! - YouTube

**JakodaCD OA** · 10-17-2011, 08:22 AM

yeppie, what they said!

YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY treats,,as in hot dog pieces, string cheese, my personal fav is those frozen italian meatballs,,take a few out nuke em,, something you only use for training

**jocoyn** · 10-17-2011, 08:30 AM

I inadvertenly discovered a great treat yesterday
We buy London Broil for pot roast then cook it to death and it breaks apart in "strings" -usually get it for BOGO.....Next time I will cook one in a crock pot just for dog treats. Nothing needed to cut it up when it cooks to that point. Very low fat.

**Samba** · 10-17-2011, 11:56 AM

I also tether when working with pups. I would always have a light line on if I was going to call the pup so that other options are blocked. If no long light line on then I do things to attract the puppy...happy sounds and backing up, myself acting interested in something, etc...rather than calling them by name and cue.
Lots of short sessions with great reinforcement for coming on recall and always on a tether to you. It can be long line of several yards as you get distance.

As we tell people in class...if you call your puppy without a long light line on and treats then it is your bad. There is very little one can do in this situation except train badly or diminish the recall of the pup. If I just need want my puppy I go get it or get it to take interest in me by something other name the action of "name-come". What you are describing is a puppy situation many encounter. I have seen great recalls built over time with the methods people are talking about here.

Stosh · 10-17-2011, 12:04 PM

Another vote for tethering her and using the best treats that she loves the most for training rewards only. As she ages you can switch between food rewards and toys. There's a great dvd by Patricia McConnell called 'Lassie Come'- you might want to check it out

PaddyD · 10-17-2011, 12:11 PM

I first teach my dog to sit and I always give the treat in the same way (when teaching): I put my feet together, stand straight and clasp my hands at my chest, then give the treat. This imprints the body language in her little pea-brain as sit and treat. Very soon all I have to do is assume the position and she will sit without a word. Teaching to come is easy after that. All I have to do is say come and then assume the position (in that order) and she comes and sits in front of me.

Anthony8858 · 10-17-2011, 01:19 PM

Interesting, and rather consistant advice.

Ironically, yesterday's obediance class focused on recall.

They had her tethered to a 30' lead. They made me entice her with some yummy treat, and RUN AWAY from her, with my back to her. When I got to a certain point, I had to turn around and give the "come" command. At that point, they released her, and she came running towards me for her treat.

Question, (I forgot to ask yesterday)

This obviously works well with 2 people. I can get Kira to sit and stay. I could then walk out 30 feet, and call her. For some reason, that's not registering in my brain, as the same as their method.

My GOAL, is to stop Kira dead in her tracks, if she attemtps to run away towards a cat, person, or another dog.
I had a bad expereince with a dog many years ago, and swore I would never allow a dog to get away from me again...

Stosh · 10-17-2011, 01:30 PM

You can try it on any length lead really, even 6 ft. When she's on the lead and you're doing something else, as soon as she looks away call her with excitement and back up a bit, have a big party when she gets there. All of this will go out the window when she hits the butthead phase and you'll have to start over but at least you've gotten results to go back to.

10-17-2011, 07:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Anthony8858 Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,314	I hear you, but I'm ignoring you :) She's only 3.5 months, so I'm giving her some slack. However, I see the devilish look in her eyes, as SHE decides that she wants to ignore her recall, name, or whatever it is I'm asking of her. I would call her name, she would turn to look at me, give me a devilish grin, and continue on her pursuit of whatever it was I was trying to stop her from doing. What is the properly way of enforcing a name call, or recall, when they go into the "I hear you, but I'm ignoring you" mode?

10-17-2011, 08:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
ShenzisMom Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brampton, ON Posts: 839	Put her on a long line, or a tether to yourself. Have YUMMY treats with you. This way, if she runs, you can still catch her, or redirect her __________________ -Cassie Handler For: Shenzi: Female GSD Zira:Female Dobermann

10-17-2011, 08:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
nitemares Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Egypt Posts: 412	i would use a long lead and plenty of yummy treats, then this Dog Training Tips: Come When Called! - YouTube __________________ Nadine Tamtam - Egyptian Mau Dante (Dumpty) ze Stribrneho kamene (9-9-2011) Juventus - GSD (RIP) Animal Aid Egypt

10-17-2011, 08:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	yeppie, what they said! YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY treats,,as in hot dog pieces, string cheese, my personal fav is those frozen italian meatballs,,take a few out nuke em,, something you only use for training __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

10-17-2011, 08:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
jocoyn Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,053	I inadvertenly discovered a great treat yesterday We buy London Broil for pot roast then cook it to death and it breaks apart in "strings" -usually get it for BOGO.....Next time I will cook one in a crock pot just for dog treats. Nothing needed to cut it up when it cooks to that point. Very low fat. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Grim (Grimmy Bear) & Beau (Bo-dee man) Waiting at the Bridge: Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

10-17-2011, 11:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	I also tether when working with pups. I would always have a light line on if I was going to call the pup so that other options are blocked. If no long light line on then I do things to attract the puppy...happy sounds and backing up, myself acting interested in something, etc...rather than calling them by name and cue. Lots of short sessions with great reinforcement for coming on recall and always on a tether to you. It can be long line of several yards as you get distance. As we tell people in class...if you call your puppy without a long light line on and treats then it is your bad. There is very little one can do in this situation except train badly or diminish the recall of the pup. If I just need want my puppy I go get it or get it to take interest in me by something other name the action of "name-come". What you are describing is a puppy situation many encounter. I have seen great recalls built over time with the methods people are talking about here.

10-17-2011, 12:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	Another vote for tethering her and using the best treats that she loves the most for training rewards only. As she ages you can switch between food rewards and toys. There's a great dvd by Patricia McConnell called 'Lassie Come'- you might want to check it out

10-17-2011, 12:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
PaddyD Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MassaCHEWsetts Posts: 5,222	I first teach my dog to sit and I always give the treat in the same way (when teaching): I put my feet together, stand straight and clasp my hands at my chest, then give the treat. This imprints the body language in her little pea-brain as sit and treat. Very soon all I have to do is assume the position and she will sit without a word. Teaching to come is easy after that. All I have to do is say come and then assume the position (in that order) and she comes and sits in front of me.

10-17-2011, 01:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anthony8858 Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,314	Interesting, and rather consistant advice. Ironically, yesterday's obediance class focused on recall. They had her tethered to a 30' lead. They made me entice her with some yummy treat, and RUN AWAY from her, with my back to her. When I got to a certain point, I had to turn around and give the "come" command. At that point, they released her, and she came running towards me for her treat. Question, (I forgot to ask yesterday) This obviously works well with 2 people. I can get Kira to sit and stay. I could then walk out 30 feet, and call her. For some reason, that's not registering in my brain, as the same as their method. My GOAL, is to stop Kira dead in her tracks, if she attemtps to run away towards a cat, person, or another dog. I had a bad expereince with a dog many years ago, and swore I would never allow a dog to get away from me again...

10-17-2011, 01:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	You can try it on any length lead really, even 6 ft. When she's on the lead and you're doing something else, as soon as she looks away call her with excitement and back up a bit, have a big party when she gets there. All of this will go out the window when she hits the butthead phase and you'll have to start over but at least you've gotten results to go back to.

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