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I have been training "stay" to remain in the position she's in...down, sit, etc.
"Wait" I have been using when I am leaving but will return....such as leaving the room, leaving her in the car, etc. However, I haven't come up with word to use when I just want her to "hold on a minute"---like when I put food bowl down I would like her to wait until I give OK, or when we approach door I would like her to wait until I tell her to move on through. What do others use in those situations? |
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Ive never used a command for leaving the house except "be good" lmfao. As for remaining in the position, again, down means down until I allow you to get up, same with sit, etc... never used a stay command for that. I use "wait" at doorways (I open the door, tell the dog to wait, and then give a release command when we can exit to avoid any sort of rushing of said door ha).
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I have never used a command for having my boy wait. What I have trained is, when I say sit, you will sit there and not move until I have given the OK. Same with a down or a stand. Example: Going through doorways. When I get to a door, I give the sit command, open the door, walk through alone first, then give the OK to follow.
The same goes for the car, I'll give the down command in the crate, and he'll stay there until I return, most of the time
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This topic makes me think of something that I always find myself laughing about... When I lock my car and my dogs are inside, I'll tell them to "wait" out of habit. I then have to remind myself how silly the thought of them NOT waiting if I were to forget the command, and them unlocking the doors themselves and getting out.
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I use "stop" if I want the dog to stop moving until I give the ok but they don't have to remain in a certain position.
"Stay" means to stay in position until I come back to their side and give the release cue. "Wait" means stay in position until I give another cue such as "come" or etc... Of course you can really use any cue you want for any behavior, as long as you remember which is which. |
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Ok. That helps. Pup is 11 weeks, so all my training is mostly done with treats. I guess I have been using the treat as a kind of release...I'll have to watch that. It does make more sense that if I have told her to sit, then she should sit until I release her.
I have been teaching her to sit after I place food bowl down, or go through a door but have been automatically saying OK when I want her to continue through. Perhaps I can train myself to say "come" when I am ready for her to pass through door or "eat" when it's ok to approach bowl. I think I talk too much when trying to train!!!
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I use leave it for times such as putting down food, treat or walking by roadkill
![]() Wait I use in doorways or at the top of stairs....I always make them wait until the kids are off the stairs before they can proceed Stay is "don't move" Stop I use on walks for example at crossings or when I need to retie my shoe! I think as long as you are consistent you can use whatever words suit you. I had a friend who used all #'s, for example sit may have been 44...not sure if there was a logic to that or just for fun. In addition to which words I use they all have different hand signals, which he responds to even without the words. |
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What I do when training to maintain the position is to have the dog on a leash, tell her to sit, and keep treating as she maintains the position. Then I release after a few seconds. I keep upping the time and decreasing the amount of treats. As she starts to fully understand, I'll use slight leash corrections when she breaks her position and tell my pup, "No, sit" and then when she finds her position I give "Good sit!" and reward her. I then start stepping back to the end of my leash and do the same thing, and once she gets that, I will start going around her in a circle (holding the leash) and correcting if she breaks. Eventually I start to pull lightly on the leash, and she will resist breaking the position instead of breaking to follow the leash.
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STAY = my formal command for the obedience ring and training, and it always means "stay in the position I leave you in, and do not move until I get back to you!" I always enforce it, and she is not allowed to break a stay.
WAIT = 2 things. 1) my formal command in Obedience ring for recalls. It means "wait in the position I leave you until I call you to come to me." and 2) my loose command at home and other places that means "hang on a minute, don't do anything until I release you" such as wait at the door, wait to eat the food, wait to go down the stairs until I go down first, wait in the front seat of the car til I get back from the store. If she breaks a wait I just make her "go back" to the general area of the wait, in any position, until released. I use "come" as the release for stay, and "okay" as the release for wait, and she totally understands both words and expectations.
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