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I thought no one did those anymore since all they do is scare the dog and might cause aggression later on.
Anyway I was surprised in Glory's puppy class that the instructor wants us to do this not only in class but at least once a day at home - to establish "dominance" over the pup. What a load of crap! Anyway while everyone else is alpha rolling or trying to alpha roll their puppies I just have Glory lay down and just pet her all over as part of just getting her used to handling. No way am I going alpha roll her or any other dog. Aren't people starting to realize that the old school theory of dominance and submission and being pack leader and whatnot ala Cesar Milan is not how dogs really are? I thought it was starting to catch on that that theory is not factual. If I had a little more guts I'd challenge the trainer on her opinion of alpha rolls in class - but I don't. I may talk to a few classmates about what a bad idea it is and perhaps refer them to check out Dr. Dunbar and Patricia McConnell.
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Yet another reason to watch a couple of classes before you sign up to make sure you agree with the training philosophy.
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If I tried to alpha roll Zefra, I'd probably end up with stitches..... LMAO.
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It's a training club so the instructors vary - the one I had for Nyxie's puppy class there was awesome and I had hoped to have her again - but instead have this woman instead.
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If I was in that class, and was told to "alpha roll" I would:
Lay on the ground. Put the puppy on top of me. Wait for instructor to ask, "what are you doing?" Then reply, "she is alpha rolling silly. Look how good she is!" Then I would walk out.
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Stupid....Stupid....technique.
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That is why i'm getting everything set up to become my own obedience instructor. I know what i'm doing (for the most part, just need a little work) so why not become a certified instructor? The only rolling i ever do with my dogs is push them over for a belly rub which gets that motor leg going and the tail wagging like crazy or when we're wrestling. never once have they been alpha rolled.
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I'd like to see somone try to "alpha roll" our Quando or Ando....90+lbs of no way Jose.
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Robin, Stark would just lay over for me (no one else though, I'd like to see you try... and then I would laugh at you as I drove you to the hospital) but Zefra.... she is only about 45lbs but would leave you with holes in your body if you tried!
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