Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD

ShatteringGlass · 09-25-2009, 05:02 PM

This dog seems all over the place! She did a lot of what looked like, just running around, before she actually settled and got on track. I thought a Judge would blow the whistle if you started a track like this dog did?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KJjjXebttU

jfisher · 09-25-2009, 05:19 PM

Ummmm...

I only watched the first part of the video since I couldn't take ten minutes of watching that!

I wouldn't even know what the dog was supposed to be doing if it wasn't labeled!

-Jackie

**Lauri & The Gang** · 09-25-2009, 06:03 PM

Well, the dog DID put its nose down every now and then at the beginning - so you could say the dog was working.

As long as the judge thinks the dog is working the track they will let them keep going.

jfisher · 09-25-2009, 06:06 PM

Hmmm...Interesting.

I don't know much about AKC tracking, but I always thought it was similar to SchH tracking...Guess not!

I guess they get more serious and competitive at the higher level titles maybe...

-Jackie

**Lauri & The Gang** · 09-25-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted By: GhostwolfHmmm...Interesting.

I don't know much about AKC tracking, but I always thought it was similar to SchH tracking...Guess not!
-Jackie

Not at all. The dog does NOT have to keep their nose to the ground in AKC tracking. As long as the judge believes the dog is 'working' the track they can drift on and off the track.

**Lauri & The Gang** · 09-25-2009, 06:13 PM

Personally, if that was my dog and I KNEW they could track better (which the dogs shows how well it can track later in the video) - I would have pulled it from that test.

As hard as it would be I wouldn't want my dog thinking they could start a track like that and get the fun of continuing.

kleinenHain · 09-25-2009, 06:13 PM

AKC is not as serious at SchH Tracking. The dog does not have to keep his nose down deep and as much of the video I could sit still to wach is pretty much normal for AKC. In training for my TD i seen many dogs track like this.

Also this track was at the horse park in Lexington Ky. I've not tracked there yet but I hear its a hard place to Q on at any level.

I did notice the water on one side and trees all around so I would guess the sent is all over that area. Looks a lot like the first TD track Max had ( He had and Qed at two TD tracks) and the wind was blowing pretty hard off the water.

MTAussie · 09-25-2009, 06:21 PM

IMO, that was terrible. Until the dog did actually commit and work, which was past the point that I wanted to turn the video off! lol. The dog peed, ate horse poop(as per the video descrp. and you could her yelling at him to leave it) which I would say is enough to say the dog isn't working!

The dog did try to cheat once he got excited and came of the track, but did well at getting back on after he kept visually searching, IMO.

I would say the judge was quite forgiving!

windwalker718 · 09-25-2009, 06:44 PM

Wasn't impressed with that track... but watched the one of a Saint tracking which was excellent... he's also in conformation, agility and drafting!! And lived to 10+ years! way to go Kris!

Catu · 09-25-2009, 07:38 PM

if it were area search, I'd have sent that dog home at minute 2, less to say tracking!

That dog may have ended up doing the track, but he lacks of any work ethic.

09-25-2009, 05:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShatteringGlass Master Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 906	Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD This dog seems all over the place! She did a lot of what looked like, just running around, before she actually settled and got on track. I thought a Judge would blow the whistle if you started a track like this dog did? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KJjjXebttU __________________ Kelly Dalmatians: CH Erin N Shamrock's S Hemisphere CD RN CGC "Sydney" (13yrs) (U-CH Pointed) Shamrock's Shippin Up To Boston RN (1/3 CA)CGC "Shane" (3yrs) Temporary GSD: Isabella vom Selehaus (1.5yrs)

09-25-2009, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
jfisher Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,250	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD Ummmm... I only watched the first part of the video since I couldn't take ten minutes of watching that! I wouldn't even know what the dog was supposed to be doing if it wasn't labeled! -Jackie

09-25-2009, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 12,525	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD Well, the dog DID put its nose down every now and then at the beginning - so you could say the dog was working. As long as the judge thinks the dog is working the track they will let them keep going. __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Tazer HIC CGC – Cocker Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Sasha - GSD mix Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - Fuego (Chinese Crested)

09-25-2009, 06:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
jfisher Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,250	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD Hmmm...Interesting. I don't know much about AKC tracking, but I always thought it was similar to SchH tracking...Guess not! I guess they get more serious and competitive at the higher level titles maybe... -Jackie

09-25-2009, 06:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 12,525	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD Personally, if that was my dog and I KNEW they could track better (which the dogs shows how well it can track later in the video) - I would have pulled it from that test. As hard as it would be I wouldn't want my dog thinking they could start a track like that and get the fun of continuing. __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Tazer HIC CGC – Cocker Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Sasha - GSD mix Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - Fuego (Chinese Crested)

09-25-2009, 06:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
kleinenHain Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,941	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD AKC is not as serious at SchH Tracking. The dog does not have to keep his nose down deep and as much of the video I could sit still to wach is pretty much normal for AKC. In training for my TD i seen many dogs track like this. Also this track was at the horse park in Lexington Ky. I've not tracked there yet but I hear its a hard place to Q on at any level. I did notice the water on one side and trees all around so I would guess the sent is all over that area. Looks a lot like the first TD track Max had ( He had and Qed at two TD tracks) and the wind was blowing pretty hard off the water. __________________ CGC Evaluator/ Free testing for Rescue dogs Klenien Hain http://kleinenhain.weebly.com/ U-CD Nomex vom Gebirgshaus SAR,BH,TD-2,VCD2,RAE,CDX,MXJ,AX,VER,NAP,NJP,CGC ( Retired ) Enzo z Blitz vom Kleinen Hain CGC NA,NAJ,OA,OAJ,AX,BN,CD

09-25-2009, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
MTAussie Master Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: VA Posts: 855	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD IMO, that was terrible. Until the dog did actually commit and work, which was past the point that I wanted to turn the video off! lol. The dog peed, ate horse poop(as per the video descrp. and you could her yelling at him to leave it) which I would say is enough to say the dog isn't working! The dog did try to cheat once he got excited and came of the track, but did well at getting back on after he kept visually searching, IMO. I would say the judge was quite forgiving! __________________ Tråd Killer Plate Hunder og Trener Tysk Gjeter Hund Vifte För de svaga har jag blivit svag, för att kunna vinna de svaga; för alla har jag blivit allt, för att jag i alla händelser skall frälsa några.

09-25-2009, 06:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
windwalker718 Master Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NW Connecticut Posts: 865	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD Wasn't impressed with that track... but watched the one of a Saint tracking which was excellent... he's also in conformation, agility and drafting!! And lived to 10+ years! way to go Kris! __________________ Home of: Bree... Rescue Mutt (12/11) Demi V. Hayden (8/09) SG Ikon V.Wolfstraum--(5/09) & Many beloveds at the gate waiting for me...

09-25-2009, 07:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,276	Re: Is this normal? Video of a dog earning a TD if it were area search, I'd have sent that dog home at minute 2, less to say tracking! That dog may have ended up doing the track, but he lacks of any work ethic. __________________ "The dog does not need to be deranked so much as the people need to learn to act like people worth listening to" Suzanne Clothier. Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; Work in Progress Bagheera, Long term puppy host

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