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Old 10-28-2012, 05:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Are you planning on getting your dog titled or anything? Looks like they don't own the bitch from your pup... or maybe it's just not on their website? I'd prefer a breeder that handles their own dogs, but that's preference. I'm still confused about the jump from the breeder to talking about breeding your dog. Also, breeding two titled dogs does not a good breeder make. Don't know if this breeder knows how to match up pedigrees correctly or not... or how much he knows about his own dogs since they aren't HOT. They are gorgeous, though! Do you have pics of your dog you can share? Bet she's a looker, too.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Na Im not interested in getting her titled, Yeah heres a pic iv more on my page, I love her so much

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Old 10-28-2012, 05:53 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If you aren't interested in titling, the only reason to breed your female would be... well, actually, I can't think of a good reason. The only thing you would get out of it is a puppy, right? The breeder would do the breeding, whelp the pups, raise them, then sell them?

The breeder should be titling the dogs before breeding, so would he title her also?
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Well the breeder told me he would do it all yeah, Im not to sure what you mean by titling to be honest Like shes my first GS I really dont know much, but Iv changed my mind about breeding, But I really want to get a male, and of course neuter them both
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Like shes my first GS I really dont know much, but Iv changed my mind about breeding, But I really want to get a male, and of course neuter them both
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Are you planning on getting your dog titled or anything? Looks like they don't own the bitch from your pup... or maybe it's just not on their website? I'd prefer a breeder that handles their own dogs, but that's preference. I'm still confused about the jump from the breeder to talking about breeding your dog. Also, breeding two titled dogs does not a good breeder make. Don't know if this breeder knows how to match up pedigrees correctly or not... or how much he knows about his own dogs since they aren't HOT. They are gorgeous, though! Do you have pics of your dog you can share? Bet she's a looker, too.
There are so many contradictions in breeding dogs.

A good breeder breeds for the future, but a good breeder has only so many dogs that they can manage on their own. A good breeder will take dogs back if necessary. A good breeder does not put down dogs as soon as they stop producing. Some of you would have a heart attack to think that a breeder might place a retired bitch. If you breed then rescue, if you don't rescue don't breed.

It is easy to see that if you have your foundation bitch and her progeny that are now retired, and some of their progeny who are currently producing, and some youngsters to see how they fill out in order to move forward with, a dog or two that did not turn out, and are now pets, and maybe a rescue or two, you are going to be way over the moon with dogs. Which makes you not a good breeder because you have more than you can properly care for.

Also, SOMEONE has to have stud dogs. Frankly, it makes sense for some breeders to own good stud dogs. But that does not mean that are the best dogs for their own bitches, and it does not mean that they are not a good dog for an outside bitch. If a stud owner breeds his dog to an outside bitch and does this with thought, that breeder may be very interested in the get. They may help to place the puppies and they may have used a stud fee for a puppy.

So a possible answer to the riddle is to place your bitches on a breeding contract, co-own bitches, so that you don't have a dozen or more dogs, and the bitches have a family of their own. I do not see co-owning bitches, breeding contracts, stud-service for a puppy or puppies, and then selling those puppies as a negative at all.

Frankly, I think that it is helpful for a breeder to have trained a dog to some level. But I really don't see it as imperative that they handle and train every dog that they use. If they send a dog out for training, a good breeder will be able to evaluate the dog themselves, they do not necessarily have to walk every yard of the dog's training to gain the proper perception of the dog's ability.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:55 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Thank you for your insights. Co-owning would explain that, also contracting on bitches that others own. I guess I always had thought that breeders owned the bitches, and studs were what they paid for... unless they also owned them. Never thought about it in the reverse. True, a breeder could become over run in a short period of time. I don't think a breeder that places retired females is automatically a bad breeder, especially if they place with care.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:50 AM   #38 (permalink)
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You and I are on the same page, I am most of the time with my GSD and feel bad when I have to leave the house cuz I know she will be lonely, was thinking about getting another dog, like GSD or doberman but like everyone says here female and female are trouble, but I dont want male dog because they try to hump everything, I would not want to see my dogs doing it thats disgusting. And as far as breeding your dog, dont do it, there can be complications what if she dies or her puppies will have poor health? Do you know how many beautiful GSD are put down?
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but I dont want male dog because they try to hump everything, I would not want to see my dogs doing it thats disgusting.
My male GSD has never humped anything in his life (and he is still intact). Plenty of females hump too. It depends on the individual dog, not generalized to gender.
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Actually my current female humps-my male I don't think ever did
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