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Would you breed a non akc dog

We will be getting a GSD and we plan on doing as much with him as we can for titles. He has akc parents but he comes with no papers because his mom was a rescue GSD.

Would you still stud him when he is older? Also can you stud him to a female Workline female that is titled and has papers if he is a showline GSD?
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We will be getting a GSD and we plan on doing as much with him as we can for titles. He has akc parents but he comes with no papers because his mom was a rescue GSD.

Would you still stud him when he is older? Also can you stud him to a female Workline female that is titled and has papers if he is a showline GSD?
No.

The mom should never have been bred in the first place simply because she's a rescue, in my opinion.

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She was part of the akc with good papers but the current owner could not get them out.

So he should be fixed then so my girl is safe from him.
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Absolutely not.

Why would you stud him out? For the money? Breeding dogs is not (or should not be) a moneymaking scheme.

If you are truly interested in becoming a breeder, please find a reputable breeder that will mentor you. There are enough unregistered, unproven, UNWANTED puppies in shelters and rescues without adding to the problem.

Titling is only one piece of the puzzle. Confirmation, health, temperament, papers, etc. are additional required pieces. No step should be skipped, IMO.

Everyone thinks their dog is wonderful and many seem to think this means they're worthy of breeding. The fact of the matter is... the majority of them simply are not.

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She was part of the akc with good papers but the current owner could not get them out.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.

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do you think $500.00 plus $300.00 for shipping is to much then because he not papered? We paid $1500 for our girl so I am still a little scared. We are picking him up on Friday so I am just making sure I cover my basics and do this the right way.
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She was part of the akc with good papers but the current owner could not get them out.

So he should be fixed then so my girl is safe from him.
How old is your girl? You should really wait to fix either dog until their growth plates are closed. There are ways to keep dogs apart when the female is in heat to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

I would fix the female if she's old enough. Or are you thinking of breeding her, too? AKC registry is FAR from the only thing needed to breed a dog. Did you x-ray and certify her hips and elbows with the OFA? What about other health/genetic testing? What sort of titles does she have? What about her confirmation? Or her temperament?

If you simply cannot keep these dogs apart, I'd get them altered ASAP.

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do you think $500.00 plus $300.00 for shipping is to much then because he not papered? We paid $1500 for our girl so I am still a little scared. We are picking him up on Friday so I am just making sure I cover my basics and do this the right way.
I would personally NEVER pay any amount of money for a dog (aside from an adoption fee from a reputable shelter or rescue) from a BYB facility. All you're doing is lining their greedy pockets so they can breed more dogs that will likely end up on death row in shelters.

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do you think $500.00 plus $300.00 for shipping is to much then because he not papered? We paid $1500 for our girl so I am still a little scared. We are picking him up on Friday so I am just making sure I cover my basics and do this the right way.
$500 for a non-papered dog is quite a bit, but typical. $300 for shipping is average; that's what the airline charges, not the breeder.

Were the parents health checked or titled? Or are they just papered? Because honestly, papers mean next to nothing, other than the dogs are purebred.

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do you think $500.00 plus $300.00 for shipping is to much then because he not papered? We paid $1500 for our girl so I am still a little scared. We are picking him up on Friday so I am just making sure I cover my basics and do this the right way.
Why are you scared? What does the price you paid for your female have to do with anything? Price does not make the dog and is completely subjective. If you think $800 is a fair price for the dog you are getting, then it is. Personally, $800 for a dog bred from a rescued female is way to high for me to pay.

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