does every dog owner have the right to breed? discussion - Page 2 - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-06-2010, 07:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Kiowa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GA
Posts: 32
Default

I had just composed a beautiful dissertation on this topic and then my wireless "burped" and I lost it. Oh well, it was too wordy anyway.

In short, I think that breeders that do it for the love of the breed, or the individual dog and are trying to get another just like the 1st, are fine. AS LONG as they have responsible, loving and COMMITTED homes lined up prior to breeding. The market is flooded with too many puppies and dogs from irresponsible breeders and this ruins the odds of a shelter dog getting a chance at a life and a loving home. Shelter dogs make the best pets if frivolous people could just get past the looks. My 1st shelter dog, Spud, is a basset-pitt mix and is the oddest little piglet of a dog you'll ever see. But he is the coolest dog on the planet. Kai is a close second, but no one would adopt her because 1) some moron thought she was part wolf (no she is not) and 2) she was so mis-behaved and uncontrollable. She is a beautiful dog and probably came from a puppy mill and was originally purchased for looks.

Money does not a responsible dog owner make, so charging thousands for a pup does not guarantee a loving home for the animal. Money breeders ruin the chances of adoption for the dogs already in shelters and the puppies they sell to anyone willing to write them a check will likely become the next pretty pooch in the pound.
Kiowa is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-06-2010, 07:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
onyx'girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SW, MI
Posts: 17,611
Default

Get rid of the millers, first, IMO. That is one business that I just don't understand~ why they are still allowed to treat the animals the way they do.
Shelters wouldn't be so overwhelmed if the millers were extinct.
__________________
Jane~
Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo
onyx'girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 07:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
LaRen616's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 10,582
Default

I feel it is wrong to breed your dogs just because you can.

It breaks my heart when I go to shelters and see all of those dogs wagging their tails when they see someone walk by. Wanting to save them all and knowing that you cant is one of the hardest things for me.

If it's an accident, well I hope they learn their lesson and find those puppies a good home. If it's not an accident then,
__________________
~ Sinister 3 yr old black male GSD 3.11.09

~ Malice 9 mth old black female GSD 6.19.11

Cats: Chaos, Monster, Wicked
LaRen616 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 08:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
GSDElsa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Central, NY
Posts: 3,706
Default

I think the one thing people are forgetting is this is the internet and people are posting their decisions or potential decisions here. It is a forum in which people give advice the best way they know how. If the best way they know how is to
vehemently discourage someone from breeding their unregisterd, hip dysplasic dog just to get one puppy, then so be it.

Once you pose a question or an opinion on a public internet forum you lose your right to protest about what will come after if the person doesn't think you're ethical, correct, just, saavy, etc.

These people who are anti-irresponsible breeders are not going through the newspaper and showing up on people's doorsteps lecturing them about their irresponsibility. They are responding to something via the www that people put out there at their own risk.
__________________
Justine, mom to:
- Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins"
- Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"
GSDElsa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 08:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
Knighted Member
 
HeidiW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3,141
Default

No Way! Not anyone who has a dog. Only to better our breed for the future, by someone who knows and has what it takes.
__________________
Heidi, human mom to
Daisy, 6 yr JRT
Bella, 3 yr GSD
Bo, 2 yr GSD
Rest in Peace,
Kasey, GSD Shelter 8/96-12/07 at the Bridge
Patches, CS Shelter 4/93-4/05 at the Bridge
Keisha, GSD 12/87-10/96 at the Bridge
Tarsha, GSD my sweet 16 BD at the Bridge
HeidiW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 09:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
mjbgsd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,877
Default

Only if you(as in general) are responsible and do your homework when it comes to the amount of time, money, and energy it takes to breed a healthy litter. Breeders should be breeding to better a breed.
mjbgsd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 10:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
The Italian One
 
Vinnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Minnesota, USA
Posts: 8,639
Default

I agree with those who say yes everyone has the “right” but just because they have the right doesn’t mean they should.

I have the right to do many things but that doesn’t mean I'm going to run out and do all those things.
Vinnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 10:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
sagelfn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,748
Default

IMO what should never be bred is..

a rescue/adopted dog, an unregistered dog, a dog that hasn't been health tested and more importantly had excellent results, a dog that has not yet been proven (working/showing etc..), a dog with poor temperment according to the breed standard, a dog that physically does not meet the breed standard

even if your dogs meet the above reasons I gave YOU should not breed them if..

you are not willing to keep the puppies if suitable homes cannot be found, you will not take puppies back even if they have severe health/temperment issues, you have not thoroughly screened future puppy buyers, you are not prepared for properly raising and caring for a new litter, you are not prepared for the risk to your own dogs during breeding and welping, you cannot financially provide for the care of the dogs and new litters should there be unforseen circumstances, you do not have knowledge of bloodlines and genetics...

drawing blanks now
__________________
-Brandi

Sage 6-5-09
Facebook
sagelfn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 11:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
weber1b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,481
Default

Like so many questions....just because you can does not mean you should. I have three rescues, one in particular who is clearly of AWFUL breeding. Lord knows what the circumstances were. It would be nice if every dog could get a good home, but until then, it would be nice to see fewer of them all being brought into the world.
__________________
Clover - GSD 6 yr old Rescue
Max - GSD 4 yr old Shelter
Patton - GSD 6 yr old Abandoned
Rogue - Grey Tabby cat - 11 yr old Stray
R.I.P. Spats, Sophie, Emmie, Pooh Bear

Remember, if someone has a problem with you.........it is in fact their problem.
weber1b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2010, 11:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Emoore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North DFW, TX
Posts: 9,215
Default

Do they have the right? Yes. Dogs are property and so long as they're receiving adequate food, shelter, medical care, etc you have the right to do what you want with them. Should it happen? Nope.
__________________
Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young
Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months

At the Bridge:
Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010
Emoore is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:22 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com