Showline Studs

GranvilleGSD · 05-06-2009, 09:26 PM

I am considering using a showline stud, either German or American lines, to improve some conformation flaws, however I seem to be having difficulty finding ones that appeal to me since I tend to prefer working lines. Anybody have any suggestions, nice males that they know of? This won't be happening for a while, so I will be spending a lot of time researching peds, seeing in person, etc. but I need to get started in my research.

Some criteria I'm looking for, strong masculine head, good forehand and reach, correct rear, good health, temperament and drives, hips/elbows. I know you can't have it all, but these are my list toppers that I can think of now.

Annikas Mom · 05-06-2009, 11:11 PM

Geronimo vom Olympus http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/124262.html

Zeek vom Olympus
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/124258.html

I have had the pleasure of spending quite a bit of time with both of these boys and I adore them.

GranvilleGSD · 05-07-2009, 12:46 AM

I like Geronimo. Hmm, California is far... but I do have an uncle and cousins who live around San Francisco!

wolfstraum · 05-07-2009, 07:08 AM

Many breeders will not "cross over" - I know some excellent dogs whose owners will not breed even a well bred OFA cert German showline female if she is not titled under the SV system...

Umzilla on this board has a male who seems very versatile, titled, and has been bred to an untitled working line female, and is in IL - so I would recommend contacting her for assistance and to see her male.

Lee

Liesje · 05-07-2009, 08:26 AM

What specifically are you trying to improve?

GSDextrodinaire · 05-07-2009, 08:29 AM

Take a look at ObiWan From TheisHof. Obi has an OUTSTANDING stable temperament, good working ability, very very nice looking. He has a bit of a short croup, but his other attributes are worth it! I spent some time with Obi in 2007 and was very impressed with him, and I am not easily impressed when it comes to show lines.

I second Geronimo!! He is a good strong dog, who produces the same.

Annikas Mom · 05-07-2009, 11:28 AM

Another vote for ObiWan!! Very nice boy!!

GranvilleGSD · 05-07-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted By: LiesjeWhat specifically are you trying to improve?

I am trying to improve the front overall, and get a little more reach to the gait. But I don't want to lose things like a strong head, as a lot of showlines I've seen have snipey heads, both German (females mostly) and American.

I also like umzilla's boy Fritz, he is on my potential list. Haven't been able to get out to meet him in person yet though.

Liesje · 05-07-2009, 12:16 PM

Off topic, are you coming to the Premier next month?

**Andaka** · 05-07-2009, 02:08 PM

I sent you an email.

05-06-2009, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
GranvilleGSD Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 686	Showline Studs I am considering using a showline stud, either German or American lines, to improve some conformation flaws, however I seem to be having difficulty finding ones that appeal to me since I tend to prefer working lines. Anybody have any suggestions, nice males that they know of? This won't be happening for a while, so I will be spending a lot of time researching peds, seeing in person, etc. but I need to get started in my research. Some criteria I'm looking for, strong masculine head, good forehand and reach, correct rear, good health, temperament and drives, hips/elbows. I know you can't have it all, but these are my list toppers that I can think of now.

05-06-2009, 11:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Annikas Mom Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Grass Valley, CA Posts: 1,920	Re: Showline Studs Geronimo vom Olympus http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/124262.html Zeek vom Olympus http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/124258.html I have had the pleasure of spending quite a bit of time with both of these boys and I adore them. __________________ Darlene http://www.vomherrenhaus.com Annika Vom HausWesterman 7/30/03-4/18/07 Manto Vom Grum Majestat 5/31/05, work in progress Bodo Vom Landgraf 7/7/03, Bh, retired Venja Von HausLohe 6/10/04, Bh

05-07-2009, 12:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
GranvilleGSD Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 686	Re: Showline Studs I like Geronimo. Hmm, California is far... but I do have an uncle and cousins who live around San Francisco!

05-07-2009, 07:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	Re: Showline Studs Many breeders will not "cross over" - I know some excellent dogs whose owners will not breed even a well bred OFA cert German showline female if she is not titled under the SV system... Umzilla on this board has a male who seems very versatile, titled, and has been bred to an untitled working line female, and is in IL - so I would recommend contacting her for assistance and to see her male. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

05-07-2009, 08:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	Re: Showline Studs What specifically are you trying to improve? __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

05-07-2009, 08:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
GSDextrodinaire Knighted Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NH Posts: 2,091	Re: Showline Studs Take a look at ObiWan From TheisHof. Obi has an OUTSTANDING stable temperament, good working ability, very very nice looking. He has a bit of a short croup, but his other attributes are worth it! I spent some time with Obi in 2007 and was very impressed with him, and I am not easily impressed when it comes to show lines. I second Geronimo!! He is a good strong dog, who produces the same. __________________ ~Dee It's all fun and games until the freakin' flyin' monkeys attack V Gipsi Vom Sawtooth SchH3 IPO3 KKL1 HOT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQDf0W3ih2o

05-07-2009, 11:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Annikas Mom Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Grass Valley, CA Posts: 1,920	Re: Showline Studs Another vote for ObiWan!! Very nice boy!! __________________ Darlene http://www.vomherrenhaus.com Annika Vom HausWesterman 7/30/03-4/18/07 Manto Vom Grum Majestat 5/31/05, work in progress Bodo Vom Landgraf 7/7/03, Bh, retired Venja Von HausLohe 6/10/04, Bh

05-07-2009, 12:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	Re: Showline Studs Off topic, are you coming to the Premier next month? __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

05-07-2009, 02:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Re: Showline Studs I sent you an email. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

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