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#371 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 455
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For every "scientific study" that comes up with 1 set of results, there is at least 1 other study that comes up with an opposing set of results.
Rabies has to be given every 3 years, because it's "the law" (whoopie). Kennel cough must be given if you have to board your dog. My previous employer (a vet in whom I place a LOT of trust) vaccinates his own dogs every 3 years. So that's what we do - Ziva got her shots right after we adopted her 2 years ago (I ignored the paperwork from the Rescue...since they lied about so many other things...) She's had only Kennel cough vacc since that time, because we've had to board her twice. If you want to compare human vaccs & dogs - look no further than the ANNUAL flu & pneumonia shots the government wants us to have. I've never had either. Even now, when the docs say I should, because of my depressed immune system, due to repeated chemo - I won't. Call it my Aires stubbornness. IMO, it's a racket - just like I think cancer treatment is. If they can charge $15 K per treatment, well heck - no incentive there to find a cure, huh?! IMO - no lectures, please! ![]() Our 4 housecats: 3 are 100% indoor cats. The 4th - Oliver - is out with me on a leash periodically. Never ecposed to other cats or their droppings. So they don't get annual vaccs either. Every 3 years, just like the dog. It's an adventure taking 4 cats + 1 goofy GSD to the vet every 3 years for shots! (Obviously, more often if medical treatment is necessary...) |
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#372 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3
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Have seen the effects of corona and parvo viruses in pups and older dogs, I'd rather not pass up giving immunizations. Perhaps the ill effects such as the spike in autoimmune conditions that were mentioned may have environmental causes? How about what we feed? The commercial dog feeds are made with animals that are not for human consumption. Having seen dead cattle lying in a field for days before the dog feed guys came to pick them up, I wonder about quality. A city pound operator also showed me the dumpster where dogs and cats that he had to kill were stored until the feed guys came to get them. Thats how the outbreak of prion disease (Mad Cow) broke out in Great Britian, right? This may not be an industry wide practice. But, antibiotics and steroids are present and are a factor. I'll take my chances with immunizations.
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#375 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 4
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I vaccinate my puppies up to the adult shots then only titers after that. over vaccination has been linked to many autoimmune problems - allergies, temperament problems, tumors, etc. Only if their immunity proves to be low do I give additional vaccinations - most vaccines are good for lifetime or at least 7 - 10 years.
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#376 (permalink) |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 450
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I do puppy vaccinations and lifetime rabies shots on schedule according to recommendations (or laws in the case of rabies). For non-rabies shots with my adult dogs, I talk to my vet about risk (both of the vaccine and of exposure to the disease), do titers, and then come up with a plan for each individual.
I'm a huge fan of vaccines, but I do think we over-vaccinate our pets, largely because with many vaccines we just don't have that much research into how long they are effective. And while I would rather be safe than sorry, I also think that prompting an immune system response like that yearly for the lifetime of the animal is likely to have some effect. Plus, I've had a few animals over the years have a serious reaction to an individual shot, so for that risk alone I'd prefer to minimize the amount of vaccinations my pets get while still ensuring their health and safety.
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#377 (permalink) |
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Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,118
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Berlin is MY first dog, that i'm responsible for in regards to financially. I did give him all rounds of puppy vaccinations (only the required though) and rabies. I am required by law in IL to get the rabies yearly, and I will get his other vac. done again when he is a year - after that I might titer.
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#378 (permalink) |
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 16
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I'd like to always think I can put the health of my furkid as high of a priority as my own. I plan to get all of his shots, as well as to keep up his heartworm/parasite/flea medicine each month, and routine exams. God willing, I will be able to do right by Max. He has no voice and looks to me to take care of him. I will try my very best.
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,108
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Here is the relevant law: http://www.agr.state.il.us/Laws/Regs/AnimalActReg.pdf |
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#380 (permalink) |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 418
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In crook county its every year for rabies. And you need about a 7 way shot series to enter any dog park or boarding facility. I may be off but from what ive read there was 24 cases of rabies in the country and i think that was in a very long period like 20 years. Our local dog parks and any training in crook requires unnessecary shots. It doesnt make sense to give most dogs kennel cough shots, the shot itself is ineffective, and the illness is no big deal once beyond puppy. And I saw a big poster for lepto at my vet, its in cook county and its from raccoons. 240 cases last year, and about 1 million dogs. Many who have a dumpster nearby where racoons frequent. Ill take those odds and avoid the dangerous shot. Im doing the 3 way dap series and then a rabies. Im gonna do hertguard and thinking ill do a drug resistance test as well. Screw the govt if they are misinformed and trying to tell me to do more.
Im curious- how much do the titer tests cost altogether? Last edited by volcano; 03-04-2013 at 01:43 AM. |
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