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Old 05-05-2011, 05:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think people can make an informed opinion based on one or two sentences of a scenario. You need to have more of the facts to do that. And ALL dog bite situations are different and need to be looked at as such. You can never give a generalized stamp that will cover all cases to have it fit. If that were the case we could have a nice little sticky that says "Did your dog bit? Read here" and we wouldn't need to even answer the threads we could just direct new posters there. But again, every situation is different and therefore every situation will require different answers. Plus you have people with a vast differentiation in levels of experience are answering so their answers will be vastly different as well.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think the outcome of the replies has a lot do do with the original post from the OP. That drives a lot of the opinions and emotions of those reading the threads.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree that we need to not breed bad temperament. But I do not know that we need to kill every dog that does have a problem.

I get the feeling that a dog that is biting out of having someone in his space is more acceptable than a dog who bites due to poor nerves or poor character.

I do not know when it became ok for dogs to bite people if they are bending over them, looking in their eyes (I know that can be a challenge), hugging them.

But there are many dogs out there with less then stellar temperament that are managed quite effectively and do not bite people because their owners respect their limits. So is there a difference between, my limit is your beak in my face, or my limit is being in a crowd of people?

I do not know if I could live with a dog I was truly afraid would bite me if I stepped out of line with him. I can live with a dog that will bark, lunge and act a fool if a stranger comes up to their crate or kennel.
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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It's important to start training a GSD as early as possible in socialization and knowing the clear difference between situations, especially when to act in a clearly desperate and dangerous situation.

It's one thing to have an intruder on your property. Your dog can't just go chase down and attack anyone..especially children and adolescents wandering in by accident or innocent purpose.

Every few days we'll test our dog with friends who are dressed in different clothes, wearing different odors, carrying tools, garden things, books and bags, we reward him when he clearly tells the difference.

The dog is only as good as the handler and if the handler won't expend the time to teach his dog right, trouble will be the only response.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:58 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I haven't read most of those threads...but I may have commented on one???
I have a hard time reading those types of threads, because my "personal opinion" can and does offend some people...so I choose to not give an opinion.
I can say ..that.....I cannot accept or tolerate "aggression" from any dog that is unprovoked......even more from a dog that I have raised from a small puppy.
Unstable nerves and temperament is a growing epidemic and element in this breed, and until we are strong & hard enough as breeders and owners to acknowledge it, and "cull" the individuals from the breeding pool.....it will continue to be a problem, and we will read more threads about it. *And we will continue to find "reasons and "excuses" for the behaviour, while trying to live with & offer suggestions on how to "fix" the problem.

*See...I told you, most people would not like my opinion....and it's not meant to offend.
I am with you.

And should add that aggression is one of those topic I almost never offer advice on a web board. In many cases I don't agree with the advice offered and in many others the bigger problem is handling and the human extreme of the leash, so for my own mental health, I just don't go to those threads.
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