Been a while since I posted hello all...so Friday a friend and I were walking our dogs when we seen an akita dog (now this dog has nearly attacked my friends dog and came after us on Wednesday day but luckily it was called off by several people) so we quickly turn round to walk the other way but the akita has already seen us he comes running over from quite a way away body language super aggressive
my dog is on a lead my friends is not the akita bites my friends dog who in turn bites it back in the face it then turns it's aggression onto my dog grabs him by the throat(it's on my dog for maybe be 30 seconds)it doesn't let go so my dog grabs the ruff behind it's ear and just holds till the owner eventually manages to get his dog off still not putting his dog on the lead so it's now circling for another attack my friend and I are now screaming for him to get his dog witch he eventually does he then laughed apologies and walks away
next thing we know he's come storming thru the tree's to shout at me that his dog is bleeding( his dog has a small graze above it eye ) he was adamant it was my dog who had injured his I tell him it may not have been my dog who had injured his that both mine and my friends dog were defending themselves he then stats screaming at me that my dog was dangerous and was going to get him done under the dangerous dogs act that my dog needs a muzzle I flip back at him telling him that my dog was on the lead and his dog came and attacked mine and that my dog was defending himself he states his dog doesn't bit he was just saying hello I say mate your dog had its jaws clamped around my dogs neck (he is also saying because my dog has no blood on him his dog never bit him)
I say his dog should be muzzled and kept on a lead he then very threatenly steps forward say he's going to sort me out (Im a 27 year old woman )then turns his attention to my dog Clay and says he's going to sort my dog out.. I step back to keep out of reach of this boot I could feel he was going to kick my dog but he also brought his dog to close and I could see the dog was ready to attack again he then start making things up like I hurt his dog then my friend threatens to call the police and he leaves
To say we were gobsmacked would be an under statement...on our way home we warn a few other dog walkers most of them new who we were talking about because his dog had either tried to or had attacked theres when I got home I call the police and tell them what had happened they say theres nothing they can do without a name or address
I'm still very upset and angry clay hasn't been the same since he's very quiet sleeping all the time we when on our walk today he didn't want to play or run wasn't interested in anything bless him poor guy not only was he attacked but was threatened and called dangerous for defending himself
the scary thing is this guy has no idea how aggressive his dog is its never on a lead and I know for sure when we come across it again it's going to attack my dog again....
my goodness sorry for the novel guess I just had to rant.. if you made it this far thanks for reading
If at all possible if you see the guy again and he starts making threats, pull out your phone and video it. If I were to see him again I would take pictures of him for your own record in case it happens again. Someone else from that area might be able to ID him for you.
Thanks for your reply...yes I had the same idea and brought a go pro type camera to film all my walks from now on I guess you never know when your gonna run into dangerous and crazy.
Glad you all are ok and nobody got hurt!As Deb says be prepared to record evidence if there's a next time and try to discover an address for this guy.He sounds dangerous,please be careful!
Besides all the practical advice everyone gave about making a video and collecting evidence, I want to add something I once learned from a K9 trainer on how to get a pit bull to release its grip. And if it works on a pit bull whose jaws lock, it could work on an Akita who his biting your dog's throat for 30 seconds. Kick the dog really hard in the soft part of his underbelly. This will hurt him and he will release whatever he is biting.
Is it legal to carry pepper spray or bear spray where you live? That could help as well – spray that Akita before he gets to your dogs. It works even on bears and mountain lions, and causes no long-term harm.
Thank you for your reply unfortunately it is illegal to carry pepper spray and similar products here in the uk I guess the authority's would rather you cause possible permanent damage by kicking and hitting than use a more affective safer alternatives like pepper spray. Yes I should have acted and kick the dog or something but I guess I froze next time I won't.
Thank you for your reply and your concern dogma13 yes I think he might not be quite right and will do my best to keep away from him I spoke to a few people they seem to know of him but not much else aparantley he's only recently started walking his dog in my area.
Go back and get the address, call the police and any animal control again and give the address. Tell them that the man threatened you and you cannot get his name as that would not be safe. Tell them to look for the big Akita dog, and whoever owns him is their man.
I was attacked in the store by a man who I did not know. I froze, and I went home. This happened when I was still a minor. Afterwards, every few months the guy would run into me. I did not know his name, but he would get before me in line at a store in town, or try to talk to me when I was walking. I finally called the police. They said the same thing, they couldn't do anything without a name and address. I told him I could tell them what he looked like, what clothes he wore, what kind of truck he drives, what he smells like -- doesn't matter. (Whatever you do ladies, don't be attacked by a stranger.) By accident, my dad and I were shooting out on a property of someone who game my dad permission and this guy had drove up while we were there and talked to my dad. It was him. I told my dad at the time, that was the guy. So he never went there again. But when the cops needed a name and address, I knew dad had the address or could get it. I did not want to involve him. So, I went to the store and asked them. They didn't know the guy's name -- small town. They knew who I was talking about, but not his name. So I had to get Dad to drive out to the property and get the address and name. He did. I called the police back and they went and talked to the guy and I have never seen him again.
Long story short, go and get the address where the dude lives and call them back. Ask other neighbors, dog walkers if they know the guy's name.
An akita is a dog with a lot of power, and they are often dog aggressive. No way should he get a pass on this. A visit from the police sometimes is what bullies need to understand that you aren't going to put up with their behavior.
Been awhile since I posted hello all...so Friday a friend and I were walking our dogs when we seen an akita dog (now this dog has nearly attacked my friends dog and came after us on Wednesday day but luckily it was called off by several people) so we quickly turn round to walk the other way but the akita has already seen us he comes running over from quite a way away body language super aggressive
my dog is on a lead my friends is not the akita bites my friends dog who in turn bites it back in the face it then turns it's aggression onto my dog grabs him by the throat(it's on my dog for maybe be 30 seconds)it doesn't let go so my dog grabs the ruff behind it's ear and just holds till the owner eventually manages to get his dog off still not putting his dog on the lead so it's now circling for another attack my friend and I are now screaming for him to get his dog which he eventually does he then laughed apologies and walks away.
First I am so sorry this happened!! Someone's pet is going to get killed or someone is going to get injured, trying to protect there dog from this "uncontrolled beast of a dog."
next thing we know he's come storming thru the tree's to shout at me that his dog is bleeding( his dog has a small graze above it eye ) he was adamant it was my dog who had injured his I tell him it may not have been my dog who had injured his that both mine and my friends dog were defending themselves he then stats screaming at me that my dog was dangerous and was going to get him done under the dangerous dogs act that my dog needs a muzzle I flip back at him telling him that my dog was on the lead and his dog came and attacked mine and that my dog was defending himself he states his dog doesn't bit he was just saying hello I say mate your dog had its jaws clamped around my dogs neck (he is also saying because my dog has no blood on him his dog never bit him)
That guy is both a "freaking tool" and a "coward" and that's kinda what they do ... show "Zero" level of unconcern for others. And "no responsibility" for there actions!! So his actions afterwards are not really a surprise??
And you would be absolutely "100%" correct!! That "is" what "responsible" dog owners do, if they have a dog with serious "aggression" issues!! I've had a couple myself one it was other dogs and one with people and it was my "Job" to not make my "problems" someone else's problem! Clearly that guy thinks differently than myself???
But you never know?? As they say "Karma's a bitch" and for all you know ... there is someone like myself in your neighborhood??? And if a dog that hard core came after one of mine ... and got by me first then, it's gonna be Vet's and the ER for everybody!!! Cause "we" don't freaking play! So if you have "tools" there also ... then most likely, you have dog owners with "very low thresholds" for crap from unknown dogs also ... you never know???
he then very threatenly steps forward say he's going to sort me out (Im a 27 year old woman )then turns his attention to my dog Clay and says he's going to sort my dog out ... I step back to keep out of reach of this boot I could feel he was going to kick my dog but he also brought his dog to close and I could see the dog was ready to attack again he then start making things up like I hurt his dog then my friend threatens to call the police and he leaves
To say we were gobsmacked would be an under statement...on our way home we warn a few other dog walkers most of them new who we were talking about because his dog had either tried to or had attacked theres when I got home I call the police and tell them what had happened they say there's nothing they can do without a name or address
OK ... I'm catching up here, this would be the down side??? On not being injured in any fashion ... nonhuman involvement ... so you know dogs fight ... that's what they do???
The guy was a total freaking too!!!!! I thought "America" had a monopoly on them ... but apparently not??? That dog is "known" how many "Akitas" are around you, he can't be that hard to find??? Most likely other dog owners know where this tool lives??? Ask them you can, find this tool and try again to file a report.
I'm still very upset and angry clay hasn't been the same since he's very quiet sleeping all the time we when on our walk today he didn't want to play or run wasn't interested in anything bless him poor guy not only was he attacked but was threatened and called dangerous for defending himself
the scary thing is this guy has no idea how aggressive his dog is it's never on a lead and I know for sure when we come across it again it's going to attack my dog again....
my goodness sorry for the novel guess I just had to rant.. if you made it this far thanks for reading
The down side from "crap like this" still you can't help by "folding over him." You have to .... well be prepared but carry on like nothing happened??? Some dogs can just shrug it off, some dogs not so much??? If he is still good with his buddy ... that would be great! If you have "Pack walks" available is an option where you are ... do that. You have to be the one that shows him ... "Crap happens???"
I would make a report now. I wouldn't walk my dog in that area until that guy and his dog are no longer a threat. Akitas can be aggressive(as you have witnessed) and they are not small.
So you cannot carry mace, firearm, etc... I would carry wasp or hornet spray. Shoots a fair distance and could be used on Akitas or dumba** Akita owner. Is it legal to carry a knife.
I agree with getting the police involved. But looks like they aren't gonna be a lot of help until something escalates or someone who knows this guy comes forward.
I think you ought to call Animal Control as well, even if you don't have all the information regarding this person. I would make the report first because, for one thing, I would want to beat him to it just in case he tries to report you. Tell them what happened with all the details, just like you put in your post, including the fact he threatened you. Tell him that your neighbors have also had trouble with this dog, and give them any of their names and addresses that you have. Tell them that the dog is off leash and aggressive and that it's just a matter of time before he seriously hurts another dog or even a person, if they get in his way. I would not pull any punches, this sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
It gets to a point where one has to wonder just how much weaponry does one have or need to carry to protect themselves and their dog from dog aggressive dogs in public.
Dogs attacking and / or killing dogs are in the media headlines every day. Often the victim dog's owner gets hurt in the melee. The owner of the aggressing dog, if present, usually takes off.
Is the solution juggling a can of wasp spray, an air horn, maybe a knife, while holding a leash, maybe some treats, a plastic bag or two, or a ball on the way to the park.... At what point does walking your dog become more like navigating a mine field and less like a source of exercise and pleasure for the dog and owner?
It gets to a point where one has to wonder just how much weaponry does one have or need to carry to protect themselves and their dog from dog aggressive dogs in public.
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Is the solution juggling a can of wasp spray, an air horn, maybe a knife, while holding a leash, maybe some treats, a plastic bag or two, or a ball on the way to the park.... At what point does walking your dog become more like navigating a mine field and less like a source of exercise and pleasure for the dog and owner?
Well, unfortunately sometimes it's necessary. Where I live coyotes are everywhere, and even big dogs sometimes get taken down. Where I used to live, two coyotes jumped a fence and killed a large dog, and I can't remember if it was a Rottweiler or a Doberman, but it was one of those. So, living here I have three choices: stay home, walk unprotected and hope for the best, or take necessary precautions.
Thankfully, I can carry bear spray here, and I do. It's on a holster that can be looped on a belt. Carrying the spray may seem annoying, but the sense of security it gives me makes up for it. When we get our puppy, we will surely bring the bear spray along on our walks.
Thanks all for you reply's clay's not doing great as of yesterday night he has a bad limp and a very painful area in his neck that I only found last night due to him limping so badly after he woke up,
we called the vets they said to keep him rested until next week and if he's still having problems to bring him in...he's not very good at the vets so hopefully we can avoid a visit.
Hopefully his neck is only bruised. Even if the Akita didn't draw blood on the surface, it still probably crushed it like a vice. Does the skin underneath look bruised or swollen?
Wow! I am so sorry. Yes, my friend from the south, told me when she was growing up, there were organized "dog fights" and the Akitas were almost always the ones standing?
I have a walking stick. It is good for many reasons. Not just to hit the dog, but to stick it out in front of you so that the dog my bite that instead of you or your dog! Another thing I have carried, is a golf putter. Carried upside down, it is like a cane, the putter head easy in your hand. Turn it around, and you have a pretty solid weapon!
I second everything @selzer said. And glad y'all are OK and that the attack wasn't any worse. There is an akita in our obedience classes that I am wary of for all the reasons that others mentioned above.
as long as your dog was on the leash when the other unleashed dog was attacked, the akita's owner doesn't have much of a case. Akita's are dangerous breed dogs too, and he was negligent to allow his off the leash like that. If push ever comes to shove, you have plenty of witnesses who will back you up.
A good tip for stopping an attack, apart from a kick to the belly, is to grab the attacking dog by the rear legs and hoist him off the ground. It is like turning off a switch.
I have a neighbor with a hyper aggressive Jack Russel. He was off the leash and attacked me and Argo. Argo grabbed him in his mouth and literally could have scissored him in half but luckily, he only growled and squeezed. His owner screamed at me (she is the local town drunk) but I showed her the holes in my Uggs where her dog bit me and I dared her to call the police. She realized that she was going to be the one to lose here so she collected her dog and left.
LOL. When my male was in his teenage butt head stage, he was attacked by a Chihuahua. At first he was outraged a dog dared to challenge him. After the initial surprise, he thought it was great fun to do a Mexican hat dance around the Chi.
I'm sure I looked ridiculous dealing with loose (usually smaller) neighborhood dogs. I've avoided injury to myself and my dogs so far. Oddly enough I've had 3 pit bull encounters and all were peaceful. The county has gotten their act together and loose dogs are not as much of an issue anymore. Just the same, I use industrial areas to walk if need be.
No I haven't been able to discover his address or even name but where we live is quite a small place and my boyfriend know just about everyone so he's been asking around so hopefully someone will know about this man, we were in the car coming back from the vets on Saturday and I thought I spotted him but it wasn't.
Too bad you cannot carry mace or some other form of a deterrent. You should not have to be afraid to go out and walk your dog or even just walk in a certain direction because someone isnt controlling their dog.
I have mace hanging right inside my garage for my wife in the event some unwanted dog or even person comes by when the kids are out playing in the front yard. At first she said I will just gather the kids and go inside but you dont always have time. Things happen fast.
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