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Zeeva 03-26-2014 12:59 PM

I thought I had lost control
 
We went for our usual walk the other day. There's a school with a large fenced off area that includes 4 or 5 baseball fields and a soccer field.

Zeeva was off leash and Smokey was on his 20-25ft retractable. These two shih tzus came up to us. Zeeva's recall was superb (but it happened so fast I don't know if she recalled before she saw the two little dogs). I grabbed the 'D' on her prong and held on for dear life. Smokey was getting in an altercation with one of the dogs as I attempted to reel him in. Just when I thought I had lost control, I asked them to sit and they did...it was like a ray of sunshine breaking through rain clouds. The two little dogs kept barking but eventually returned to their owner who apologized from afar...

I didn't post this in the brag section because I still wish I didn't have to have so much drama when an off leash dog approaches us...I wish I could trust them...

But it got me thinking a bit. Does age make a difference as to how obedient a dog is? If people would wait it out a few years before thinking about rehoming or putting their dog in a shelter...I was in that boat a while ago but I feel like with a little bit of age, my two have become more docile and manageable and that's without any formal training...isn't the most common age for a dog to be placed in a shelter under the age of 2ish? I really do believe waiting a few years makes the world of a difference, don't you?

blackshep 03-26-2014 01:16 PM

Oh I think age can certainly help, I'm glad your dogs listened. And certainly a dog will start to mellow around 2YO. My dog is so much nicer to have around than she was at this time last year! lol

Flexi's scare me for that reason, very hard to reel your dog in when you need to.

wolfy dog 03-26-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeeva (Post 5271634)
We went for our usual walk the other day. There's a school with a large fenced off area that includes 4 or 5 baseball fields and a soccer field.

Zeeva was off leash and Smokey was on his 20-25ft retractable. These two shih tzus came up to us. Zeeva's recall was superb (but it happened so fast I don't know if she recalled before she saw the two little dogs). I grabbed the 'D' on her prong and held on for dear life. Smokey was getting in an altercation with one of the dogs as I attempted to reel him in. Just when I thought I had lost control, I asked them to sit and they did...it was like a ray of sunshine breaking through rain clouds. The two little dogs kept barking but eventually returned to their owner who apologized from afar...

I didn't post this in the brag section because I still wish I didn't have to have so much drama when an off leash dog approaches us...I wish I could trust them...

But it got me thinking a bit. Does age make a difference as to how obedient a dog is? If people would wait it out a few years before thinking about rehoming or putting their dog in a shelter...I was in that boat a while ago but I feel like with a little bit of age, my two have become more docile and manageable and that's without any formal training...isn't the most common age for a dog to be placed in a shelter under the age of 2ish? I really do believe waiting a few years makes the world of a difference, don't you?

Awesome! Age does make a difference but only if you keep up the training and leadership in a consistent way.

Lilie 03-26-2014 02:18 PM

Whew! I bet that was a scary one! I think as dogs mature they don't behave like silly teenagers full of bravado. I agree with WD - if you keep up your training, don't allow a lot of gray areas to poke their ugly heads through daily, you'll end up with dogs you can trust and have fun with.

Shade 03-26-2014 02:19 PM

Good job! You're seeing the benefits of hard work, that's a great feeling :)

Zeeva 03-26-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackshep (Post 5271690)
Flexi's scare me for that reason, very hard to reel your dog in when you need to.

I've never mentioned this before because I think it may be bonkers to do...but I use a prong with a retractable for my husky Smokey...It's amazing how much control I've got with the prong and still how much freedom I can give him on the retractable...

Is it so wrong/weird to do that?

Oisin's Aoire 03-26-2014 10:58 PM

I was walking my well behaved dog with my 18 month old in a stroller. A big giant Labradoodle type was on a pretty long flexi , fully extended , and his owner could not reel him in before he bounded up on us wanting to play with my dog.

Well , he was going around and around trying to get my dog to play ( who stayed in his heel and was getting quite nervous ..this jerky dog wound the flexi across my son's face , and he was a big strong dog. I grabbed the LD's collar and snicked off his flexi as his owner was begging me not to because he would run away. I was nice enough to hold his dog's collar..which was a prong , so he did not take off. I really did not have to do that.

I asked him if his dog was not off lead trustworthy or under his control , why on earth would he think 26 feet of string was a good idea?

He could have garotted my kid. My toddler had marks across his face and chest from the friction. There is no cursing allowed on here , but you can imagine a few choice words I have for flexis.

Not directed at OP ..just wanted to vent that flexis are not a good choice for a dog that still needs lead training , unless you are going to be someplace super safe.

wyoung2153 03-26-2014 11:13 PM

It's always awesome when our dogs respond to us the way we hope. Even if you aren't sure if it was for the reason you wanted it to be (simply listening, or just opportune moment) whatever the case may be, they did it! and nothing happened! :D

That's interesting about the prong and flexi.. never would have guessed but I don't know why it would make a difference vs regular leash. As long as it's used properly like the other.

For the age and attitude thing.. hmm.. that's a good question. I know Titan seems to have been maturing a bit in the last few months. He hit his 4 year mark. But he is also getting more stubborn and set in his ways, thankfully i make sure his ways are the way I want, lol. My parents have senior dogs, the oldest being a 14 y/o lab. He is a butthead.. an absolute PITA. lol. Though that is largely due to no training done by my parents, but he is getting worse and worse. Almost as if he's like "dude, I'm old a dirt, and I don't care anymore." Lol.

Chip18 03-26-2014 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeeva (Post 5271634)
We went for our usual walk the other day. There's a school with a large fenced off area that includes 4 or 5 baseball fields and a soccer field.

Zeeva was off leash and Smokey was on his 20-25ft retractable. These two shih tzus came up to us. Zeeva's recall was superb (but it happened so fast I don't know if she recalled before she saw the two little dogs). I grabbed the 'D' on her prong and held on for dear life. Smokey was getting in an altercation with one of the dogs as I attempted to reel him in. Just when I thought I had lost control, I asked them to sit and they did...it was like a ray of sunshine breaking through rain clouds. The two little dogs kept barking but eventually returned to their owner who apologized from afar...

I didn't post this in the brag section because I still wish I didn't have to have so much drama when an off leash dog approaches us...I wish I could trust them...

But it got me thinking a bit. Does age make a difference as to how obedient a dog is? If people would wait it out a few years before thinking about rehoming or putting their dog in a shelter...I was in that boat a while ago but I feel like with a little bit of age, my two have become more docile and manageable and that's without any formal training...isn't the most common age for a dog to be placed in a shelter under the age of 2ish? I really do believe waiting a few years makes the world of a difference, don't you?

Great job and great work.

Only think I would add is that I prefer a "Stay" myself if it's "real' dogs coming at you, in a sit your dog is at a disadvantage. :)

Chip18 03-26-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeeva (Post 5275042)
I've never mentioned this before because I think it may be bonkers to do...but I use a prong with a retractable for my husky Smokey...It's amazing how much control I've got with the prong and still how much freedom I can give him on the retractable...

Is it so wrong/weird to do that?

LOL with a Husky... uh no anything that gets him back!!


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