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Old 02-26-2014, 01:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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plow·boy (plou′boi′)
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1. A boy who leads or guides a team of animals in plowing.
2. A country boy.

I'm from Texas and live here still.

The implication is that the one who agitated the GSD was unsophisticated.

I see this is going to be twisted into a discussion of colloquial expressions rather than a discussion about the cops' readiness to shoot two dogs.

Oh, well. This is one of the strangest forums I've ever visited. I shouldn't be surprised.

Maybe you could post a list of terms acceptable on this board?

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Old 02-26-2014, 01:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I've heard it used before here in the northwest, basically "big dumb oaf"
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure the term plowboy is English
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As well.. I don't know what a "plow-boy is?" Snow plow operator>?

You did right and a great thing. Simple, kids threatend - cops shoot. Sad but true. They don't have the time and it's not their job to CONTROL the situation in most cases. Had it been a 10 pound dog, different story.

Thanks for your quick thinking, the situation turned out better since you were there.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I see this is going to be twisted into a discussion of colloquial expressions rather than a discussion about the cops' readiness to shoot two dogs.

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Not going to discuss colloquial expressions other than to say I don't prefer labels.


Here is a good piece on the issues: http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/files/RIC/...idents-508.pdf

Some nuggets from that piece follow:

1. Cops shoot at animals more than anything else.

"the majority of shooting incidents involve animals, most frequently dogs. For example, nearly three-fourths of the shooting incidents in Milwaukee from January 2000–September 2002 involved shots fired at dogs, with 44 dogs killed by officers during that period.6 Information furnished by various California law enforcement agencies indicated that at least one-half of all intentional discharges of a firearm by an officer from 2000–2005 involved animals.7"

2. When cops do shoot they sometimes miss and injure humans.

"For example, in Detroit in 2010, an animal-control officer was injured when a police officer fired at two dogs that were running at large.8
An even more dramatic incident occurred on July 23, 2006, when NYPD officers were called to mediate a tenant–landlord dispute. When a dog at the building began biting the leg of an officer, 26 shots were fired at the dog, and three officers were grazed by bullets.9"

3. If force is absolutely necessary, use a taser. They are effective.

"A video of a real-time example of a safe,
effective use of the Taser®—which
ensures the safety of the officers,
bystanders, and dogs, and provides an
opportunity for effective community
policing as well—can be viewed at www.
liveleak.com/view?i=a1d_1192690532."


4. "The use of a weapon is seldom required in dog-related incidents or
encounters." Amen to that.

IMHO, guns are an absolute last resort to solving a problem. If a cop is afraid of dogs then the cop needs to be better socialized with dogs--failing that they shouldn't be a cop since encounters with dogs are common and the fear aggressive cop is a danger to himself and others. There are many non-lethal options such as tasers, pepper spray, etc. Start with using your head and diffusing the situation as the OP did. Don't come out guns blazing and ask questions later.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Your Avatar doesn't show you are from Texas. When I saw 'plow-boy', I thought perhaps it was a snow plow operator. Due to all of the adverse weather they are experiancing up north. I thought perhaps the snow plow operator jumped off the plow to gain attention of the aggressive dogs to save the children. I thought that was brave of him.
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It's a shame such a good deed gets ignored so people can pick a fight......

Thanks for saving this dog and being a good neighbor. To me, the term plowboy wasn't relevant because you provided a great description of the event. I don't know that I would have been as resourceful as you. With my luck by the time the cops got there I'd be duking it out with the plowboy for making the situation worse.
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My question is, What were these Dogs doing un attended by their Owners in a Public Place. ?
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm glad the OP was able to be there and get the situation under control and, basically, save the dogs.

I am discourage by the police response.

Back when I was moving to Arkansas, I had stopped for the night in SE Wyoming. As I was walking the late Barker Sisters the following morning, a cop car slowly went past. Here he came again, slowly. I was worried because I was traveling alone with my dogs. They had been with me all night but I had no witnesses if something had happened that night.

He stops. (#$ I'm thinking) He says "Can I pet your dogs? I just love these dogs!" You bet, sir, you can pet my dogs! Whew!!

There are LEs out there who know dogs, who like dogs, who behave appropriately. We need more of them.

[FredH - accidents happen. I venture to guess that most of us have occassionally screwed up and left a gate open, had a door pop open or something like that. We will never know how the dogs got loose. Point here is they did, a board member was, fortuitously in the right place at the right time and did the right thing.]

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