Joe the dog that attacked Max story gets thicker...

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Jessiewessie99

I say get some report on this dude, he may be abusing the dog which led to the dogs issues and have the dog taken away from them.

Either way the dude is a jerk, and doesn't deserve a dog.

OK.. my theory is the following: The dog is a major source of income for the vets that own the park. NOT!!! All three of the other dog owners that have told me that their dogs were bitten and cut by Joe have never issued a complaint!! That was a shocker. I know that some people just don't want to "ruffle feathers", but come on!!?? It is a fact that "Polar", a white boxer had stitches from Joe's bites, but evidently nobody "snitched". What is up with that?? Seriously, I do not think that the vet who owns the park wants to or could profit from injuries therein. The real and really bizarre problem is with the owners. Sometimes you get the "parents" that allow "Jason" (their beloved murderous psych "son") to roam the streets.

[selzer]

So the guy was where he was supposed to be, isolated in a smaller pen for dogs that are not social.

You went over and started a fight with him?

Walk a mile in his shoes. He is trying to let his dog get some exersize. He actually DOES care about his dog, otherwise he would not have been there.

Lots of people really do not know the first thing about dog-behavior. He probably does not think YOU know the first thing about dog behavior.

So he is embarrassed that the dog had this problem and he has been segregated to the naughty dog pen. But there you are introducing yourself and rubbing his nose in it. THEN you tell him that it was his wife's behavior that made you go and report it.

Uhm, so what were you expecting? Were you expecting him to say, gee I am sorry she was such a jerk. Or were you expecting him to say, boy am I glad you told me that, I am going to beat her tonight when I get home and teach her a lesson.

So you feel like you were trying to be buddy buddy with him after you informed the vet that his dog was dangerous, and are mad that he was not ready to be best buds with you.

I think he saw it completely different.

I think he feels that you couldn't leave well-enough alone. That you won and are now wanting for him to sing and dance for you.

I hope your puppy is fine and does not have any serious problems over this. Frankly, I think that the dog has a problem when people are playing with toys, fetch, etc. It cranks him up. The only dog park I ever was at has a rule against throwing toys and such. Maybe there is a reason. Maybe that is just a bit much for some dogs. Maybe this dog would have been well socialized to dogs and people, if your park had better rules. But now he will probably never be.

I think his swearing at you and following you out was not ideal, but neither was rubbing his nose in the fact that he got sanctioned. When people are embarrassed, they sometimes act pretty stupid and sometimes aggressively.

[LaRen616]

Originally Posted by selzer

So the guy was where he was supposed to be, isolated in a smaller pen for dogs that are not social.

You went over and started a fight with him?

Walk a mile in his shoes. He is trying to let his dog get some exersize. He actually DOES care about his dog, otherwise he would not have been there.

Lots of people really do not know the first thing about dog-behavior. He probably does not think YOU know the first thing about dog behavior.

So he is embarrassed that the dog had this problem and he has been segregated to the naughty dog pen. But there you are introducing yourself and rubbing his nose in it. THEN you tell him that it was his wife's behavior that made you go and report it.

Uhm, so what were you expecting? Were you expecting him to say, gee I am sorry she was such a jerk. Or were you expecting him to say, boy am I glad you told me that, I am going to beat her tonight when I get home and teach her a lesson.

So you feel like you were trying to be buddy buddy with him after you informed the vet that his dog was dangerous, and are mad that he was not ready to be best buds with you.

I think he saw it completely different.

I think he feels that you couldn't leave well-enough alone. That you won and are now wanting for him to sing and dance for you.

I hope your puppy is fine and does not have any serious problems over this. Frankly, I think that the dog has a problem when people are playing with toys, fetch, etc. It cranks him up. The only dog park I ever was at has a rule against throwing toys and such. Maybe there is a reason. Maybe that is just a bit much for some dogs. Maybe this dog would have been well socialized to dogs and people, if your park had better rules. But now he will probably never be.

I think his swearing at you and following you out was not ideal, but neither was rubbing his nose in the fact that he got sanctioned. When people are embarrassed, they sometimes act pretty stupid and sometimes aggressively.

I probably would have been a too if you were talking about my wife (in my case husband) He was doing what he was supposed to be doing and you went over there and started everything back up. Leave the guy alone. Things could get alot worse.

[tatiana]

Wow, those people (both husband & wife) are either the dumbest people on the planet or arrogant donkeys azzes.

I see two big problems with this scenario, aside from the obvious.

1. Other chickens (people) whose dogs have been bitten that are too cowardly to report it. UNBELIEVABLE! I hope none of those wimps have kids who are bullied at school.

2. The vet himself. If money isn't a factor, (and I believe it is here) why put EVERYONE else at risk because of one vicious dog. Ban the jerks and their dog.

Is there any way you can talk some sense into the people whose dogs have been bitten and make them realize they need to report their dogs injuries from Joe?

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by selzer

So the guy was where he was supposed to be, isolated in a smaller pen for dogs that are not social.

You went over and started a fight with him?

Walk a mile in his shoes. He is trying to let his dog get some exersize. He actually DOES care about his dog, otherwise he would not have been there.

Lots of people really do not know the first thing about dog-behavior. He probably does not think YOU know the first thing about dog behavior.

So he is embarrassed that the dog had this problem and he has been segregated to the naughty dog pen. But there you are introducing yourself and rubbing his nose in it. THEN you tell him that it was his wife's behavior that made you go and report it.

Uhm, so what were you expecting? Were you expecting him to say, gee I am sorry she was such a jerk. Or were you expecting him to say, boy am I glad you told me that, I am going to beat her tonight when I get home and teach her a lesson.

So you feel like you were trying to be buddy buddy with him after you informed the vet that his dog was dangerous, and are mad that he was not ready to be best buds with you.

I think he saw it completely different.

I think he feels that you couldn't leave well-enough alone. That you won and are now wanting for him to sing and dance for you.

I hope your puppy is fine and does not have any serious problems over this. Frankly, I think that the dog has a problem when people are playing with toys, fetch, etc. It cranks him up. The only dog park I ever was at has a rule against throwing toys and such. Maybe there is a reason. Maybe that is just a bit much for some dogs. Maybe this dog would have been well socialized to dogs and people, if your park had better rules. But now he will probably never be.

I think his swearing at you and following you out was not ideal, but neither was rubbing his nose in the fact that he got sanctioned. When people are embarrassed, they sometimes act pretty stupid and sometimes aggressively.

What???????? Start a fight with him??? I tried to be a gentleman and shake hands with him and be empathetic. He started the bs. I must need to reread what I wrote. I only told him about his wife not apologizing when he seemed confused about why I reported them.

[Jax08]

I'm sorry but I would stop going there. It is only a matter of time before this guy decides to ignore the rules. And the fact that he has to be in a smaller pen ONLY when Max is there tells me the owners of the place aren't taking it seriously enough.

[Caledon]

I would stop going there. This has moved from a dog to dog encounter to an owner to owner hassle. You are looking for something he and she is not willing to give you.

I re-read your post and you did attack his wife's behaviour and he got his back up. You wanted her to say sorry, and told them then you went on to say what you would have done, emphasing what she didn't do. You judged her and you let her husband know that. I don't know the tone of your voice, but the owner of Joe took it as attitude judging by his response. You made it personal.

I am not by husband's keeper and if someone came up to me "telling" what he did or didn't do I would have defended my husband too even if I thought my husband was wrong. I would think who the heck are you telling me what my husband should have done. And I would have gone one step further and llodged a compaint against you for hasseling me. At this point he was adhering to the new requirements.

I have to agree with selzer.

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Caledon

I would stop going there. This has moved from a dog to dog encounter to an owner to owner hassle. You are looking for something he and she is not willing to give you.

I re-read your post and you did attack his wife's behaviour and he got his back up. You wanted her to say sorry, and told them then you went on to say what you would have done, emphasing what she didn't do. You judged her and you let her husband know that. I don't know the tone of your voice, but the owner of Joe took it as attitude judging by his response. You made it personal.

I am not by husband's keeper and if someone came up to me "telling" what he did or didn't do I would have defended my husband too even if I thought my husband was wrong. I would think who the heck are you telling me what my husband should have done. And I would have gone one step further and llodged a compaint against you for hasseling me. At this point he was adhering to the new requirements.

I have to agree with selzer.

Whatever.... the first several things I said, were peace making and even an "I'm sorry about what happened." It wasn't until he got crapy about my gesture, that I felt that I had to explain (explain) why I reported them... because the wife didn't even apologize. I did not begin that way... he was and is a total jerk.

[Caledon]

Whatever.

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Caledon

Whatever.

Indeed!! It amazes me how selzer can write a novel about the situation and judge me, not even having been there and then you have the nerve to side with someone that I tried to humbly empathize with (even apologize!!! though my dog didn't do the attacking) and possibly befriend. You two have a lot of nerve.