Ugly morning... still angry

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Jessiewessie99

Glad you and your dog are ok. Thats what really matters. As for the gun, yea bad idea.

You said the lady who owns the dog sometimes has her husband take the dog and he constantly yells at the dog? Who knows what that guy is doing to the dog at home!

Its a dog park. Private or public, bad things will happen.

That's the worst part, they're spastic and inconsistent. I swear, if I had Joe for 3 weeks, he'd be a great dog. I like Joe... except for his nasty DA. He does seem trainable though. He's only 18 months old and he only has issues with possessions. It very sad. He lives in a world of "mommy thinks I do no wrong" and "Daddy thinks everything I do is wrong." I feel sorry for him.

[Jessiewessie99]

Originally Posted by Relayer

That's the worst part, they're spastic and inconsistent. I swear, if I had Joe for 3 weeks, he'd be a great dog. I like Joe... except for his nasty DA. He does seem trainable though. He's only 18 months old and he only has issues with possessions. It very sad. He lives in a world of "mommy thinks I do no wrong" and "Daddy thinks everything I do is wrong." I feel sorry for him.

Since he is young and acting that way. It could be possible he is getting mixed messages and doesn't know how to act. Too bad he can't get help so his issues could be fixed. I would have offered to help train the dog, but it seems the lady won't do that or the husband. Hopefully they learned their lesson.

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Jessiewessie99

Since he is young and acting that way. It could be possible he is getting mixed messages and doesn't know how to act. Too bad he can't get help so his issues could be fixed. I would have offered to help train the dog, but it seems the lady won't do that or the husband. Hopefully they learned their lesson.

"They" learned nothing. That's what sucks the most. Joe is great with people and he would probably be ok with dogs except that his owners are clueless. When I say I'd take him, I mean it. I'd adopt him. I'd also kill him if he ever attacks Max again and there isn't a meaningful solution reached.

[Stormy]

I think you need to take a step back and rationalize a little bit. You had a very bad situation that had the best possible outcome in the end. Max was not hurt and you took steps to make the dog park safer in the future. Don't go down the road of talking about bringing fire arms to the dog park and gunning down dogs. Hopefully that just emotions or adrenaline talking. But if you are seriously thinking this is a proper way to act then you could be the one with the most to loose. Don't bring yourself down to that level.

[Jessiewessie99]

Originally Posted by Relayer

"They" learned nothing. That's what sucks the most. Joe is great with people and he would probably be ok with dogs except that his owners are clueless. When I say I'd take him, I mean it. I'd adopt him. I'd also kill him if he ever attacks Max again and there isn't a meaningful solution reached.

I didn't say they did. I said hopefully they did.

[Jax08]

If he only has issues with his possessions then he seems to be more of a resource guarder than DA. Unfortunately, we can't control what other people do. But discharging a gun in a group full of people, possibly children and other dogs doesn't seem to be the smartest choice in the world. I'm sorry that Max was attacked. Believe me...been there, done that...however shooting a dog and traumatizing any children that might be around and scaring the out of everyone seems to be a very poor choice...if you discharged a gun around me and traumatized my dog...you would have a whole new problem.

Just something to think about while you are cooling off from your traumatic experience this morning.

[Relayer]

Originally Posted by Stormy

I think you need to take a step back and rationalize a little bit. You had a very bad situation that had the best possible outcome in the end. Max was not hurt and you took steps to make the dog park safer in the future. Don't go down the road of talking about bringing fire arms to the dog park and gunning down dogs. Hopefully that just emotions or adrenaline talking. But if you are seriously thinking this is a proper way to act then you could be the one with the most to loose. Don't bring yourself down to that level.

I'm not bringing firearms into the dog park!!! I will protect my dog. I said that I would go to my car and get my gun and shoot the dog, if after telling the owner and telling the staff at the vet doesn't work. Telling the staff will work, so I'm not worried. You shouldn't be either. I'm a dog lover.

[White German Shepherd]

Thats why ya carry the good ol baseball bat.

[Jessiewessie99]

I would rather attack the owner than the dog. I just can't come to think of hurting any dog with a gun, bat, whatever. I just wouldn't be able to live with myself. That is why I sometimes prefer dogs to humans.

[selzer]

People who responsibly own and carry guns do not shout about it. People who are quick to say that they will shoot this, and they will shoot that, half of them are just talking through their hats and don't even have a gun, and the other half are the reason all the anti-gun people are doing everything in their power to eliminate our ability to have guns.

I will say this. If that dog is there and attacks your dog and you get them apart AGAIN, and get to your car and get your dog in your car and take out your gun and shoot the other dog, YOU will be in a world of hurt.

Good luck on that. I have had to separate dogs that were fighting, really fighting, bood, serious bites that needed drains, etc. Gotten a few good bites too over the years. I have never been in a position where I felt I could shoot one of the dogs without possibly shooting the other, even if I had a gun on me.

Just because some pit bull owners are terribly irresponsible, all the owners and the breed suffers. It is the same with loud mouthed gun toters. All the people who have guns for whatever reason suffer because of the immaturity of a few. Let us not mention the criminal element because all the laws in the world will not change that.

Anyhow, if you shoot this dog at the dog park, a private park owned by your buddy the vet, well, do you think that your vet is going to continue to have a dog park there?

If they do not ban the dog, or if the dog shows up even though it is ban, get out your cell and call the vet and or the police. The vet can tell the police that the individual has been asked to leave and is not and is therefore trespassing.

No way would I let my dog play there with the dog that has already attacked him to see if it will happen again so I could shoot it.

I know that people might not want to leave off playing with their dog in a great spot because someone else is not responsible. If I had to count the times I had to do just this, I would definitely run out of fingers and toes a few times.