Just keep your dog on leash if he do not listen you

[jomil]

i know what you mean my German Shepherd dog was attacked bt two staffies she was 4 months old we were walking round a farm near us and the dogs came from nowhere they jumped on her ans luckily she has a lot puppy fur, my husband kicked the dogs off it took a while. we were fuming with the owner all he said was they don't normally do this anyway their mother was on a lead as she couldn'tbe trusted with other dogs.

A few months later my friend was walking his corgi up the same farm when the same dogs this time all three were off the lead jumped his he was covered in blood the mate said i'm sorry my friend rushed his little dog to te vets he was lucky he has a puncture wound to his neck and eye and his ear was ripped off and now he is deaf in one ear.
I also reported it to the police so did my friend all the police said we can't do anything as it was dog on dog i couldn't believe it well we put a notice up on the farm post about the dogs and a irresponsible owner, at the time there were two women who were walking their dogs they reported it too.
Now i usually walk my dog somewhere different. Also the police did go up the farm and report it to the farmer and gamekeeper to keep a watch out as they have cattle up there.

I know what you mean about other dogs i have my girl on a lead while i keep training her but other people just let their dogs run about un supervised and they let them poo all over and don't clean it up this annoys me too. I always clean up my dog mess

jo

[trish07]

I wasn't effraid of that Labrador, I was effraid Phenix could bite him. He is insecure. We are working hard. He makes progress BUT he still nervous.

If he had bite this poor Labrador, I would had problems for sure. I do whatever is possible to manage him, to teach him to trust me, I do my best to make sure we are not going into that kind of situation so nobody could get hurt, but I can't control all other dogs around our house. I can't keep Phenix inside the house because he have some stress issues and MAYBE an unleashed dog could have problem.

When we cross someone in the street, I always make sure there is a good distance between us. At first, Phenix was muzzled, than with progress, I took off his muzzle.

What I mean is....as example, if a kid or somebody is "poking" your dog, you warn to stop, but it continue and your dog bites, what could you do?

I know it is not a perfect world...I know...but it really pist me off because Phenix acts (in part) like this because of those dogs who attacked him.

[doggiedad]

irresponsible dog owners with dogs they didn't
train or socialize. if your dog doesn't know how to behave keep him
or her on a leash. keeping a dog leashed is easy.
i don't why people don't leash.

"Leash for Peace".

keep working withyour dog. when you have the unleashed
encounters use that time/distraction as a training
moment. work your dog often. good luck.

Originally Posted by trish07

Sincerly, thank god this dog wasn't agressive or insecure because it could have turn really bad. Why, why are you bringing your dog in front of you house unleashed if you know he does not listen to you?

Just have to share....we are working so hard and it is the second (or third) time that all our work is compromise due to people who are not responsible.

[Dainerra]

[quote=trish07;1789488

What I mean is....as example, if a kid or somebody is "poking" your dog, you warn to stop, but it continue and your dog bites, what could you do?
[/quote]

don't just warn them to stop, make them stop. If that means I've got to get in the face of someone else's ill-behaved spawn, then so be it. I've had kids run up and grab Rayden by the face and start shaking his head back and forth. He loves kids, but I still pulled her off him and told her that it was very dangerous. Of course I got the "why do you have a dangerous dog in public then??" from her mother who then got an earful from me.

I have no problem with stepping up to other people's kids. In a similar situation, I would have no problem with someone telling my kids to knock it off. Of course, I've tried to raise them so that they don't have issues like that.

[doggiedad]

i was in the bank with my dog. my dog
was well out of the way of the customers.
my dog was lying in a corner and i was at the window.
all of a sudden i hear my dog whining.i turn around and some little kid
(3 to 5 years old ?) was laying across his head. i started to call him
to me but if i did that he would have knocked the little
girl over. i headed towards him but before i could get to him the
little girl got up and moved away. no adult said anything. i was going to give the little girl a childrens size rant.

Originally Posted by Dainerra

I've had kids run up and grab Rayden by the face and start shaking his head back and forth. He loves kids, but I still pulled her off him and told her that it was very dangerous.

[doggiedad]

this is really, really poor advice.

Originally Posted by Elaine

You need to learn to kick any loose dog that comes up to yours, friendly or not, and keep yourself between the dogs.

[doggiedad]

a leash is a vital peice of equipment and it
should be used accordingly. having control
over your dog with no leash is a different
level of training. i think there's more dogs
that need to leashed than there are dogs that
don't need a leash. i think there's more irresponsible
dog owners out there than responsible dog
owners with trained and socialized dogs.

Originally Posted by trish07

A leash is only a equipment. You should control your dog without it.

[selzer]

Because I have a problem with dropping things -- had the surgery, now it is worse, I HAVE to have control over my dogs with or without a leash.

If my dog trailing its leash ran across a street or into another dog owner and got hit or kicked it is my fault.

It is my job to protect my dog from people and dogs. No way would I take my dog into a bank where the public is allowed and put him on a stay in a corner and wait for him to whine to find a child on top of him. There are just too many ways that can go terribly wrong, like a father over-reacts and thinks he should "beat the Nazi dog off of his baby."

I think that NORMALLY I pay attention to dogs that are not up close and personal and react well before they are within range of a tennis shoe or club. So far by some strange mixture of vigilence, luck, and grace I have not yet had to resort to kicking or clubbing a dog off of mine. I did ask one of the obedience people to watch her dog as I had mine off to my far right and her dog was right up between my knees checking my shirt for any leftovers. But THAT was on lead!!!

People have to pay attention to their dogs on lead or off, whether they have a large and powerful breed, a small or frail breed, or any breed in between. If they have a friendly dog, they need to realize that every other dog on the planet is not just as friendly. They need to realize that if a dog or people aggressive dog is on lead and under control, within it and its owner's self space, the dog can exist in public. And charging into someone else's self space is not just annoying or rude, it is dangerous.

Too bad court systems do not always uphold this they way they ought to.

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by Dainerra

if your dog accidentally got off his leash and was hit by a car, would you blame the driver?? it's the same idea. If a dog gets loose, even by accident, there is a chance that bad things will happen to him. If your dog was extremely aggressive and got loose accidentally would you feel the same?
What about if my leashed dog was extremely aggressive. Would you rather I kick your dog to keep him away or should I just let the fight begin?

sadly, when a dog is loose, rather it's an accident or because the owner doesn't care that he roams, people have no way of knowing that. and there is a good chance that something could happen to him.

As for the second point, I'd resort to kicking only if there was no other option. I carry an ASP or at least a big stick. Even dogs who aren't afraid of people generally recognize that if someone smacks you with something it's going to hurt. So, yeah, I'm willing to take on an aggressive dog. I had one jump at my face before. .......
Otherwise, he has ALWAYS been calm in these situations. If I am bitten by a loose dog, you can guarantee that there will be cops involved.
I don't go around swinging clubs either. When a loose dog approaches, Rayden automatically sits and I step between them. (He always sits automatically as soon as I stop walking) I will yell at the dog to "get" which stops most of them. An authoritative voice and demeanor is usually all it takes and the dog goes elsewhere. Very rarely do they come closer, but for the few that do, if I take a step towards them, they take off. The only dog that I have ever hit (since the dobe) is a beagle. ETA: and I have been on the other side. I have dropped the leash before and Rayden has started to go running off to greet whoever was approaching. I simply called him and told him "COME" and he was back at my side.....

What sounds truly amazing is that your dog is under such absolute control! You are to be congragulated strongly for that!

And especially that your dog just sits there calmly while another dog attacks you and you yell and gesture and drive him off. Absolutely amazing control and calmness. I do have to admit that my dog would not be quite so calm if I were being attacked by a dog or for that matter a person!

And also that you can evidently take on any dog yourself and beat him! Again absolutely amazing of you. You actually defeated a Beagle!

"Would you rather I kick your dog to keep him away or should I just let the fight begin?"

Actually what I would rather is that you read a dog and understand when they are not being aggresive and just curious and/or friendly and let them be. Since you evidently have such absolute control over your own dog, I can't believe that your dog would do anything at all, much less attack a friendly dog trotting up to you - would he?

[Dainerra]

I worked very hard to get Rayden to the point he is now. as I said, he sits quietly because I scare the dog off before it gets close. The only time we ever had a problem was the dobe. That was when I didn't carry a stick and Rayden ripped the dog's shoulder open.

He does have an excellent recall. Again, I spent his whole life working on it. If he didn't recall and the other person hit/kicked/maced him? Then, again, it would be my fault not theirs. It's not their responsibility to know if my dog is friendly or not.
He hates small dogs. With a passion. He would like nothing more to kill them all. Mostly because of all the people who think that their cute friendly little Fluffy is friendly.

Again, would you blame the driver who ran over your dog if you dropped the leash? it's the same idea.

Again, the reason that he doesn't attack approaching dogs is that I don't let them close to him