AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...?

tsulli266 · 05-07-2008, 07:23 PM

We were told not to expect an AKC conformation on our girls because they are German bloodlines. They said they walk "correctly" for German bloodlines, being that their rear legs (fetlock?)are more vertical...and that the American lines rear legs (fetlock?)are more horizontal when they walk. Is hard to describe or explain, but can you picture what I mean? Is this true, would we be wasting our time to show AKC? Thanks.

scannergirl · 05-07-2008, 07:27 PM

I know there are big differences in conformation, and I've been told that my German working line puppy will not have what the judges are looking for in AKC shows.
But there are the German shows......Sieger Shows but I do not know a whole lot about them.

tsulli266 · 05-07-2008, 07:30 PM

Hmmm...so I wonder if the AKC conformation is pretty much for the American lines (hence A = American in AKC)????

mkennels · 05-07-2008, 07:40 PM

it all depends on the judge, i have an american/german bitch they all can see the german in her but everyone has said she is a nice looking girl and would do well once she get her act together, there is also UKC united kennel club that german lines do well in I wouldn't do big akc shows for now just do some smaller ones, akc is so political and ukc is very nice and it seems more and more is going to ukc (it is all owner handle dogs there)

tsulli266 · 05-07-2008, 07:53 PM

What do you consider a big akc show?

mkennels · 05-07-2008, 08:51 PM

over 500 total dogs and those are the ones that has some breeding with a speciality going on. http://www.infodog.com is a good place for upcoming shows if you havent looked there already

JenM66 · 05-08-2008, 09:49 AM

Do you have to start out as a puppy or can you start older? Are spayed or neutered dogs allowed?

**Chris Wild** · 05-08-2008, 09:59 AM

Spayed/neutered dogs are not allowed in AKC or German conformation showing.

I know German conformation showing has classes for pups as young as 3 months old. Not sure about AKC.

VKristallaugen4 · 05-08-2008, 10:01 AM

All Show dogs must be intact, a "show" is basically to compete against the Standard of the breed to determine breeding quality. Spayed/neutered animals obviously can not be bred. That goes for any conformation show ring.

You can start them at any age. MOST German lines will not do well in AKC shows, two completely different interperations of the "Standard".

VKristallaugen4 · 05-08-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted By: Chris WildSpayed/neutered dogs are not allowed in AKC or German conformation showing.

I know German conformation showing has classes for pups as young as 3 months old. Not sure about AKC.

AKC does not allow under 6 months of age on the date of the show.

05-07-2008, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
tsulli266 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 32	AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? We were told not to expect an AKC conformation on our girls because they are German bloodlines. They said they walk "correctly" for German bloodlines, being that their rear legs (fetlock?)are more vertical...and that the American lines rear legs (fetlock?)are more horizontal when they walk. Is hard to describe or explain, but can you picture what I mean? Is this true, would we be wasting our time to show AKC? Thanks.

05-07-2008, 07:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
scannergirl Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Outer Banks, NC Posts: 2,255	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? I know there are big differences in conformation, and I've been told that my German working line puppy will not have what the judges are looking for in AKC shows. But there are the German shows......Sieger Shows but I do not know a whole lot about them. __________________ Lisa Owned by: Lucina v Dare, GSD Fancy Me Deuce (Tedy) APHA gelding Purple Haze Nirvana AQHA mare Trooper rescue kitty and senior fur kid

05-07-2008, 07:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
tsulli266 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 32	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? Hmmm...so I wonder if the AKC conformation is pretty much for the American lines (hence A = American in AKC)????

05-07-2008, 07:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkennels Master Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 932	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? it all depends on the judge, i have an american/german bitch they all can see the german in her but everyone has said she is a nice looking girl and would do well once she get her act together, there is also UKC united kennel club that german lines do well in I wouldn't do big akc shows for now just do some smaller ones, akc is so political and ukc is very nice and it seems more and more is going to ukc (it is all owner handle dogs there) __________________ Janet UKC CH Mystical Talyn D'Argo, TT, OFA H/E, CERF, AKC DNA UKC CH Gretchen Julika Little Star, TT, OFA, Cerf, AKC DNA Von Hornberger's Mystical Knight, TT, CERF, AKC DNA, OFA Ranita's Heavenly Angel R.I.P 9/15/07-10/15/08 http://www.mysticalkennels.com

05-07-2008, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
tsulli266 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 32	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? What do you consider a big akc show?

05-07-2008, 08:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkennels Master Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 932	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? over 500 total dogs and those are the ones that has some breeding with a speciality going on. http://www.infodog.com is a good place for upcoming shows if you havent looked there already __________________ Janet UKC CH Mystical Talyn D'Argo, TT, OFA H/E, CERF, AKC DNA UKC CH Gretchen Julika Little Star, TT, OFA, Cerf, AKC DNA Von Hornberger's Mystical Knight, TT, CERF, AKC DNA, OFA Ranita's Heavenly Angel R.I.P 9/15/07-10/15/08 http://www.mysticalkennels.com

05-08-2008, 09:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
JenM66 Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,939	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? Do you have to start out as a puppy or can you start older? Are spayed or neutered dogs allowed? __________________ Jen, proudly owned by Gracie (1/18/06), CGC, TD, TT, PThttp://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...%202/sheep.gif

05-08-2008, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? Spayed/neutered dogs are not allowed in AKC or German conformation showing. I know German conformation showing has classes for pups as young as 3 months old. Not sure about AKC. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

05-08-2008, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
VKristallaugen4 Master Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Posts: 580	Re: AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...? All Show dogs must be intact, a "show" is basically to compete against the Standard of the breed to determine breeding quality. Spayed/neutered animals obviously can not be bred. That goes for any conformation show ring. You can start them at any age. MOST German lines will not do well in AKC shows, two completely different interperations of the "Standard". __________________ Kris K http://kamelotshepherds.com Home of Hollow Hills' Leucadia "Leuka" and Conlee's End Of Summer v Kamelot "Koko"

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