UKC is NOT lower quality

**Lauri & The Gang** · 01-07-2013, 06:17 PM

I get REALLY tired of hearing people dis UKC championships and the UKC show ring competition.

Personally, I put MORE value on a UKC CH than an AKC CH. There are NO professional handlers allowed in UKC. To me this means the judging takes place at the CORRECT end of the leash.

If you have enough $$$ you could take a crappy dog, buy a top name handler and get an AKC title on it. That wouldn't happen in UKC.

Discoetheque · 01-07-2013, 06:25 PM

I personally love showing UKC. The people there are so friendly and helpful, and I always have a good time during a show-weekend. I haven't shown in more than a year because of finances, but I'm looking forward to getting back into it this season. It's great for someone like me who is a novice handler, and who just does it because I like spending time with my friends and my dog, as opposed to someone who might be putting a lot more stake behind it.

Xeph · 01-07-2013, 06:26 PM

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That wouldn't happen in UKC.

True. You can finish a crappy dog yourself in UKC for a lot less money

I have seen some GREAT examples of GSDs finish in UKC that wouldn't get a look in AKC (and wrongly so). I've also seen some absolutely horrid examples that are obviously "Just pets".

It happens in both rings, but it seems to happen a lot more in UKC, IMO.

onyx'girl · 01-07-2013, 06:26 PM

Xeph · 01-07-2013, 06:32 PM

Would like to add that UKC seems to be better for some breeds than others. I personally find the quality of UKC White Shepherd champions to be higher overall than the GSDs

MustLoveGSDs · 01-07-2013, 06:35 PM

From what I've read, it's so easy to get a UKC CH. People have put UKC CH on their dogs without ever seeing/beating another dog of their breed. The general consensus is that it's great practice for inexperienced handlers or owners that just want to have fun in a more relaxed atmosphere, but more value is placed on an AKC CH title and with most breeds, a puppy buyer in the US should really question a breeder who only has UKC ch titles on their dogs, and that some people take it very personal when UKC is compared to AKC for the reasons mentioned.

Xeph · 01-07-2013, 06:39 PM

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People have put UKC CH on their dogs without ever seeing/beating another dog of their breed

Yup.

The UKC GrCh is harder to obtain (and rather well respected), but then I think, why not just put those rules in place in the first place for a championship?

Jax08 · 01-07-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lauri & The Gang

I get REALLY tired of hearing people dis UKC championships and the UKC show ring competition.

Personally, I put MORE value on a UKC CH than an AKC CH. There are NO professional handlers allowed in UKC. To me this means the judging takes place at the CORRECT end of the leash.

If you have enough $$$ you could take a crappy dog, buy a top name handler and get an AKC title on it. That wouldn't happen in UKC.

:thum bup:

I have friends that refuse to show AKC anymore because it was all about who owned the dog and who was handling it.

Loneforce · 01-07-2013, 07:36 PM

Jonas's breeder does ukc and loves it. He keeps trying to get me to show Jonas there.

carmspack · 01-07-2013, 07:53 PM

it , once again , depends on who your competition was for the show event .

01-07-2013, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 13,758	UKC is NOT lower quality I get REALLY tired of hearing people dis UKC championships and the UKC show ring competition. Personally, I put MORE value on a UKC CH than an AKC CH. There are NO professional handlers allowed in UKC. To me this means the judging takes place at the CORRECT end of the leash. If you have enough $$$ you could take a crappy dog, buy a top name handler and get an AKC title on it. That wouldn't happen in UKC. __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - (Fuego) - Chinese Crested Piquins Wasabi (Sabi) - Chinese Crested Piquins Super Hot (Clark) - Chinese Crested Banzai, Cloe, Mocha - Felines Extraordinaire Neke, Tessa, Remi, Sadie, Riggs, Sasha, Tazer - DK, Mozart, Zoe - Gone but not forgotten

01-07-2013, 06:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Discoetheque Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oak Park, MI Posts: 207	I personally love showing UKC. The people there are so friendly and helpful, and I always have a good time during a show-weekend. I haven't shown in more than a year because of finances, but I'm looking forward to getting back into it this season. It's great for someone like me who is a novice handler, and who just does it because I like spending time with my friends and my dog, as opposed to someone who might be putting a lot more stake behind it. __________________ SG2 CAC Discoe vom haus Huro, BH, AD, CD, CGC, HOT, OFA-Excellent, CERF RIP Reba von Treue Freundschaft, CGC, TDI May 11, 2005 - May 23, 2013

01-07-2013, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,201	__________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

01-07-2013, 06:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	Would like to add that UKC seems to be better for some breeds than others. I personally find the quality of UKC White Shepherd champions to be higher overall than the GSDs __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

01-07-2013, 06:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
MustLoveGSDs Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 1,450	From what I've read, it's so easy to get a UKC CH. People have put UKC CH on their dogs without ever seeing/beating another dog of their breed. The general consensus is that it's great practice for inexperienced handlers or owners that just want to have fun in a more relaxed atmosphere, but more value is placed on an AKC CH title and with most breeds, a puppy buyer in the US should really question a breeder who only has UKC ch titles on their dogs, and that some people take it very personal when UKC is compared to AKC for the reasons mentioned. __________________ http://www.secondchanceshepherds.org/index.html "If you don't train them, don't blame them" Zelda(husky), Optimus Prime(doberman),Rogue(BGSD)

01-07-2013, 07:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Loneforce Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: PA Posts: 2,408	Jonas's breeder does ukc and loves it. He keeps trying to get me to show Jonas there. __________________ Jonas :Black & Red WGSL D.O.B.01/14/2012... Taz:11/15/99-01/16/12 Ginger:06/23/02-02/13/13

01-07-2013, 07:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
carmspack Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 5,553	it , once again , depends on who your competition was for the show event . __________________ Carmen ******** Carmspack**

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