What doe having a "weak rear" mean?

**Castlemaid** · 12-18-2011, 09:07 PM

I see and hear this a lot, but not sure what it means? Would it be possible for people to post good rears vs. weak rears and explain what the critical eye is looking for?

Thanks!

PaddyD · 12-18-2011, 09:22 PM

Sometimes a 'weak' rear isn't all that weak. If the front is very heavy it came make a normal rear look weak. This seems common in GSL lines. See a lot more super-duper fronts and blah rears there.

onyx'girl · 12-18-2011, 09:28 PM

And now that everyone is breeding for a huge head, what will that do to the rear?

Xeph · 12-18-2011, 11:44 PM

Good question. I don't like those big Akita heads at all...no more than I like weak, over refined heads.

**Andaka** · 12-18-2011, 11:48 PM

Weak rears often include cow hocks (hocks rotate in toward the body) as well.

elisabeth_00117 · 12-19-2011, 12:05 AM

Here, I'll put my two up for a critique since I am curious about what this looks like.

robinhuerta · 12-19-2011, 12:38 AM

Neither of the dogs pictured...look to have weak rears.....they have difference in amount of angulation.

PaddyD · 12-19-2011, 04:56 AM

JMVHO. First picture looks more balanced in amount of angulation, very little. Stark has more rear angulation. Neither looks 'weak'. I am guessing that Zefra is the more fleet and agile. Also guessing that she will look very different in a few months when she starts to fill out.

PaddyD · 12-19-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PaddyD

JMVHO. First picture looks more balanced in amount of angulation, very little. Stark has more rear angulation. Neither looks 'weak'. I am guessing that Zefra is the more fleet and agile. Also guessing that she will look very different in a few months when she starts to fill out.

Need to add: Stark is one very handsome dude. Masculine without being over the top.

**Samba** · 12-19-2011, 06:55 AM

I had a dog that exhibited what might be called a weak rear. I don"t have a picture handy. He had very long bones in the rear legs, long hocks and extreme angulation at the stifle. Never clean going away at any speed.

12-18-2011, 09:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,089	What doe having a "weak rear" mean? I see and hear this a lot, but not sure what it means? Would it be possible for people to post good rears vs. weak rears and explain what the critical eye is looking for? Thanks! __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

12-18-2011, 09:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,611	And now that everyone is breeding for a huge head, what will that do to the rear? __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

12-18-2011, 11:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	Good question. I don't like those big Akita heads at all...no more than I like weak, over refined heads. __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

12-18-2011, 11:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Weak rears often include cow hocks (hocks rotate in toward the body) as well. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

12-19-2011, 12:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 7,252	Here, I'll put my two up for a critique since I am curious about what this looks like. __________________ Battleborn Hundesport Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC (2009-04-10) Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" (2011-04-15) *Beau* 03/08/97 to 06/07/10

12-18-2011, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
PaddyD Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MassaCHEWsetts Posts: 5,222	Sometimes a 'weak' rear isn't all that weak. If the front is very heavy it came make a normal rear look weak. This seems common in GSL lines. See a lot more super-duper fronts and blah rears there.

12-19-2011, 12:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
robinhuerta Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,225	Neither of the dogs pictured...look to have weak rears.....they have difference in amount of angulation. __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

12-19-2011, 04:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
PaddyD Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MassaCHEWsetts Posts: 5,222	JMVHO. First picture looks more balanced in amount of angulation, very little. Stark has more rear angulation. Neither looks 'weak'. I am guessing that Zefra is the more fleet and agile. Also guessing that she will look very different in a few months when she starts to fill out.

12-19-2011, 06:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	I had a dog that exhibited what might be called a weak rear. I don"t have a picture handy. He had very long bones in the rear legs, long hocks and extreme angulation at the stifle. Never clean going away at any speed.

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