Would have been my GV...

**Samba** · 10-20-2010, 10:17 PM

While I know they are still extreme to many people, I have to say that since returning to the conformation world of AKC, the German Shepherds have become more moderate and more correct. Temperaments seem improved also.

Several decades ago, the males especially, tended to be slabby, of poor secondary sex characteristics, very extreme with sloppy hock action. These days I see many dogs who are quite masculine and not as extreme with more moderate topline and nice movement. I used to pass up the male exhibition and now I see dogs that are of substance with real secondary sex characteristics.

This year, Eli would have been my pick for grand victor but then nobody asked me anyway! He did come in second select. He is a robust dog with a one big masculine head. What I have seen of him in person, he appeared of sound temperament also.

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EJM N' Eko-Lan's Eli

Xeph · 10-20-2010, 10:59 PM

He is very nice, but being that he's not even 3 yet, I'd say maturity played a part in the decision. I think Roger is a pretty ok dog. He will also be 7 in 9 days, and so definitely has the maturity on Eli.

I think Eli will be a big contender next year.

Any thoughts on the top two bitches?

selzer · 10-20-2010, 11:09 PM

I was at one of those running vid parties, and the general consensus was for Eli. But everyone really liked the winner's bitch/grand vixtrix.

**Samba** · 10-20-2010, 11:50 PM

I too thought the WB and then GV was very nice.

I don't think Aregon was much over 3 years old last year when he went GV. Eli at a similar age is quite enough dog, IMO. I don't know how many 7 year old dogs have gone GV though. I don't think that much maturity is the requisite. Full Throttle was GV in 2008 and I believe he was born in 2006.

**Andaka** · 10-21-2010, 12:30 AM

Eli was my pick for GV, and I thought he had it until the end. The WB/GV was breath-taking! She looked better on Saturday than Friday.

Xeph · 10-21-2010, 01:32 AM

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I don't think that much maturity is the requisite.

I don't either, as a general whole, but when I look at Eli, I just don't see a "finished" dog yet (in terms of maturity).

GSDElsa · 10-21-2010, 04:33 AM

Does anyone know how much he weighs? He looks like a monster to me!

**Samba** · 10-21-2010, 07:03 AM

I don't know how much Eli weighs. He is not a really tall dog and his weight is appropriate but, he is a muscled guy with a broad chest and head.

This dog was the WD in the specialty before the national. I had admired his picture on the internet and then kinda spooky.. I saw him at the national. Next I get to help transport him to his new home. We traveled across several states and he was a dog of good temperament and confidence no matter where we were or who was with him. The world is his oyster. He is not extreme and is masculine. I like the Eddie dog.

Edales Eddison

Liesje · 10-21-2010, 02:21 PM

He's very nice, I can dig that! I wish he had better color but I do like the head. I don't think he's too extreme for my tastes, just wish they were not stacked doing the splits (I'm looking at sibling photos on PDB).

krisk · 10-21-2010, 04:49 PM

I didn`t watch any of the national this year. But the photos I have seen, it sure was a great bunch. Eli is a gorgeous boy.

But I do know, I love Eddie (Edale`s Eddison), having watched him grow up I maybe a litlle bias.

At his first show 6 months of age...RWD and Best Puppy specialty show

At a year.

At 2 years.

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10-20-2010, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	Would have been my GV... While I know they are still extreme to many people, I have to say that since returning to the conformation world of AKC, the German Shepherds have become more moderate and more correct. Temperaments seem improved also. Several decades ago, the males especially, tended to be slabby, of poor secondary sex characteristics, very extreme with sloppy hock action. These days I see many dogs who are quite masculine and not as extreme with more moderate topline and nice movement. I used to pass up the male exhibition and now I see dogs that are of substance with real secondary sex characteristics. This year, Eli would have been my pick for grand victor but then nobody asked me anyway! He did come in second select. He is a robust dog with a one big masculine head. What I have seen of him in person, he appeared of sound temperament also. MV.AM.&CAN.SEL.EX.CH EJM N' EKO-LAN'S ELI - German shepherd dog EJM N' Eko-Lan's Eli

10-20-2010, 10:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	He is very nice, but being that he's not even 3 yet, I'd say maturity played a part in the decision. I think Roger is a pretty ok dog. He will also be 7 in 9 days, and so definitely has the maturity on Eli. I think Eli will be a big contender next year. Any thoughts on the top two bitches? __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

10-20-2010, 11:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	I was at one of those running vid parties, and the general consensus was for Eli. But everyone really liked the winner's bitch/grand vixtrix. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

10-20-2010, 11:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	I too thought the WB and then GV was very nice. I don't think Aregon was much over 3 years old last year when he went GV. Eli at a similar age is quite enough dog, IMO. I don't know how many 7 year old dogs have gone GV though. I don't think that much maturity is the requisite. Full Throttle was GV in 2008 and I believe he was born in 2006. Last edited by Samba; 10-20-2010 at 11:53 PM.

10-21-2010, 12:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Eli was my pick for GV, and I thought he had it until the end. The WB/GV was breath-taking! She looked better on Saturday than Friday. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

10-21-2010, 04:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	Does anyone know how much he weighs? He looks like a monster to me! __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

10-21-2010, 07:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	I don't know how much Eli weighs. He is not a really tall dog and his weight is appropriate but, he is a muscled guy with a broad chest and head. This dog was the WD in the specialty before the national. I had admired his picture on the internet and then kinda spooky.. I saw him at the national. Next I get to help transport him to his new home. We traveled across several states and he was a dog of good temperament and confidence no matter where we were or who was with him. The world is his oyster. He is not extreme and is masculine. I like the Eddie dog. Edales Eddison Last edited by Samba; 10-21-2010 at 07:10 AM.

10-21-2010, 02:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	He's very nice, I can dig that! I wish he had better color but I do like the head. I don't think he's too extreme for my tastes, just wish they were not stacked doing the splits (I'm looking at sibling photos on PDB). __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

10-21-2010, 04:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
krisk Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 121	I didn`t watch any of the national this year. But the photos I have seen, it sure was a great bunch. Eli is a gorgeous boy. But I do know, I love Eddie (Edale`s Eddison), having watched him grow up I maybe a litlle bias. At his first show 6 months of age...RWD and Best Puppy specialty show At a year. At 2 years. krisk Sunflower`s Immortal of Dilquin BIM Edale`s Wild Thyme (Ch. pt`d) Hausemekon`s Caught Red Handed (co-owned) Rainbowbridge BPIS.Ch.Sunflower`s Kissin Kris CD,TC,HIC Sunflower`s Aztec Asyak CD,TC

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