new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA

luvdogz · 10-31-2009, 09:08 PM

I'm not new to dogs at all but am new to the GSD (bought a black sable from an average breeder). I also became a member of my local WDA ScH club with a rescue Mal - long story.

but i'm very interested in learning about non _AKC stuff like ScH and am planning on going to the Sieger show in Pomona this weekend (7th) just to learn about that aspect of the GSD.

I have heard about how bad the protection part is compared to the ScH trials.

Anyway, can anyone tell me what to look for at the Sieger show and maybe help me understand what i'm seeing. I know that these are show and not working line dogs doing a lighter-weight protection. That's about all i know.

luvdogz

Kayos and Havoc · 10-31-2009, 11:37 PM

I don't do SchH so I don't know - but I bet you might see some board members there.

Liesje · 11-01-2009, 07:09 PM

It's not really a "lighter weight" protection than working line dogs - working line dogs in the show or doing Koerungs do the same thing - it's a protection/bitework/courage test for the show, so you are not seeing a *real* protection routine like you would in a trial (regardless of the dog or line).

This is a loaded topic, so I'll just say that if you are mainly interested in Schutzhund, I would stick with your club and going to trials. The standard for passing the performance test at the Sieger Shows is very, very low.

luvdogz · 11-03-2009, 05:43 PM

thanks L - yeh, i know it's a loaded topic - even as a rookie, i can tell that already - LOL

It's all so interesting to me - such a huge subculture built around this one breed! Now i love the gsd! I'll never be without one.

Fodder · 11-03-2009, 05:54 PM

luvdogz -- are there tickets available or is it by invitation? i'm browsing the site and havent found anything yet... http://www.nass2009.org

Liesje · 11-03-2009, 06:08 PM

If you have to pay, they'd just ask for it at the show. You don't need tickets ahead of time. I've never had to pay, but of the Sieger Shows I've been to, either my dog was entered or I was with a vendor.

Fodder · 11-03-2009, 06:16 PM

thanks lies... i'm still not finding anything. its about an hours drive so i'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect before deciding whether or not to head out.

**Andaka** · 11-03-2009, 06:41 PM

I haven't had to pay as a spectator at the Sieger show, but the one I went to was at Purina Farms and they didn't have to pay for the venue.

Liesje · 11-03-2009, 07:16 PM

I think the USA Sieger Show in Chicago had sort of blocked off everything so you were supposed to pay to watch, but I'm not sure how much it was. I know that you didn't need a "ticket" or anything in advance. We went back for the bitework with my in-laws and didn't pay at all, though I heard rumors that they wanted to charge. I don't think you had to pay at all for NASS 2008. Most of the venues are so wide open it's impossible to enforce.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 11-03-2009, 08:49 PM

I went to the one in San Jose, California, and there was an entry fee, but I don't remember how much it was. Maybe $10?

10-31-2009, 09:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
luvdogz New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5	new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA I'm not new to dogs at all but am new to the GSD (bought a black sable from an average breeder). I also became a member of my local WDA ScH club with a rescue Mal - long story. but i'm very interested in learning about non _AKC stuff like ScH and am planning on going to the Sieger show in Pomona this weekend (7th) just to learn about that aspect of the GSD. I have heard about how bad the protection part is compared to the ScH trials. Anyway, can anyone tell me what to look for at the Sieger show and maybe help me understand what i'm seeing. I know that these are show and not working line dogs doing a lighter-weight protection. That's about all i know. luvdogz

10-31-2009, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kayos and Havoc Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McAlester, OK Posts: 16,921	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA I don't do SchH so I don't know - but I bet you might see some board members there. __________________ Kathy The Wrecking Crew URO3, UCD "Kayos" CD,TDX,RE,CGC,HIC,TC URO1, UCD "Havoc" CDX,GN,RE,CGC,HIC,TC,BH At the Bridge: Lucky, Wolf, Max Gone but never forgotten

11-01-2009, 07:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA It's not really a "lighter weight" protection than working line dogs - working line dogs in the show or doing Koerungs do the same thing - it's a protection/bitework/courage test for the show, so you are not seeing a real protection routine like you would in a trial (regardless of the dog or line). This is a loaded topic, so I'll just say that if you are mainly interested in Schutzhund, I would stick with your club and going to trials. The standard for passing the performance test at the Sieger Shows is very, very low. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

11-03-2009, 05:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
luvdogz New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA thanks L - yeh, i know it's a loaded topic - even as a rookie, i can tell that already - LOL It's all so interesting to me - such a huge subculture built around this one breed! Now i love the gsd! I'll never be without one.

11-03-2009, 05:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fodder Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NoCal-SoCal Posts: 3,855	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA luvdogz -- are there tickets available or is it by invitation? i'm browsing the site and havent found anything yet... http://www.nass2009.org __________________ ...mom to gia, tilden & ziggy

11-03-2009, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA If you have to pay, they'd just ask for it at the show. You don't need tickets ahead of time. I've never had to pay, but of the Sieger Shows I've been to, either my dog was entered or I was with a vendor. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

11-03-2009, 06:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fodder Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NoCal-SoCal Posts: 3,855	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA thanks lies... i'm still not finding anything. its about an hours drive so i'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect before deciding whether or not to head out. __________________ ...mom to gia, tilden & ziggy

11-03-2009, 06:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA I haven't had to pay as a spectator at the Sieger show, but the one I went to was at Purina Farms and they didn't have to pay for the venue. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

11-03-2009, 07:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA I think the USA Sieger Show in Chicago had sort of blocked off everything so you were supposed to pay to watch, but I'm not sure how much it was. I know that you didn't need a "ticket" or anything in advance. We went back for the bitework with my in-laws and didn't pay at all, though I heard rumors that they wanted to charge. I don't think you had to pay at all for NASS 2008. Most of the venues are so wide open it's impossible to enforce. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

11-03-2009, 08:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	Re: new to the gsd/want to see Sieger/CA I went to the one in San Jose, California, and there was an entry fee, but I don't remember how much it was. Maybe $10? __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

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