I went to a specialty show..

emjworks05 · 07-13-2009, 11:15 PM

This last Sunday, It was awesome. I do have a question tho, the handlers were having the dog owners run around the ring and shout at their dogs, is this pretty normal? I also saw one guy he had a big chunk or raw meat wrapped in a towel with bells on it and when the dogs came by he put the meat over the ring and the dog chomped down on it, I would think that would be distracting, is this also pretty normal?

Mrs.K · 07-14-2009, 12:34 AM

Oh yeah, it is pretty normal if they run around the ring and shout at their dogs. I've never heard about the meat think though. It is to get their attention so they'd present themselves even better.
However, some other member can probably give you a better explanation I do not know all the phrases or words in english for that particular show

gsdsrule · 07-14-2009, 12:53 AM

I think it is stupid and should be stopped. Why do show people always get so extreme?

Xeph · 07-14-2009, 01:24 AM

It's called doubling...and the Germans do it too

It keeps the dogs going around the ring.

I do not double my dogs aside from training.

**Andaka** · 07-14-2009, 08:57 AM

We start puppies early with "sound conditioning" for double handling. When we start feeding them solid food, we also ring bells to let them know that it is time to eat. Quickly it becomes almost an instinct to respond to the bells. When they are big enough to go outside, we use the bells to call them back into the house.

It is continued once they move into crates, but I use a different sound then. I know, as a dog trainer, that you don't have to use an obnoxious amount of noise if you train them right, so I use a silent dog whistle. The high pitch will carry above the din of dogs barking or bells ringing and people shouting. Most conformation people are not dog trainers so they take the easy way out.

gsdsrule · 07-14-2009, 08:00 PM

I know what it's called. I still think it is stupid. What keeps the
dog going is the handler and conditioning.

middleofnowhere · 07-14-2009, 10:41 PM

It's double handling. The GSD show world is notorious for it. Last I knew it was considered a disqualification in the AKC show world but the GSD ring ignored that little nugget. A lot of other breed folks have a bit of contempt for us because of it.

Xeph · 07-14-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:I know what it's called.

But another poster didn't

emjworks05 · 07-15-2009, 12:15 AM

I was wondering what it was called, to me it was a bit silly, but that's just my opinion ( no offense attended ). I am in handling class now with my girl Noel, for me it was really easy to catch on to see what people in a real ring were doing. Just from watching shows I know that showing and handling Noel is something Im really going to enjoy!!

mjbgsd · 07-15-2009, 09:49 PM

If I may ask, were you at the GSD of Eugene's show?

07-13-2009, 11:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	I went to a specialty show.. This last Sunday, It was awesome. I do have a question tho, the handlers were having the dog owners run around the ring and shout at their dogs, is this pretty normal? I also saw one guy he had a big chunk or raw meat wrapped in a towel with bells on it and when the dogs came by he put the meat over the ring and the dog chomped down on it, I would think that would be distracting, is this also pretty normal? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

07-14-2009, 12:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,381	Re: I went to a specialty show.. Oh yeah, it is pretty normal if they run around the ring and shout at their dogs. I've never heard about the meat think though. It is to get their attention so they'd present themselves even better. However, some other member can probably give you a better explanation I do not know all the phrases or words in english for that particular show

07-14-2009, 12:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
gsdsrule Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Posts: 62	Re: I went to a specialty show.. I think it is stupid and should be stopped. Why do show people always get so extreme? __________________ "Dogs are not our whole lives, but they make our lives whole" Roger Caras

07-14-2009, 01:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	Re: I went to a specialty show.. It's called doubling...and the Germans do it too It keeps the dogs going around the ring. I do not double my dogs aside from training. __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

07-14-2009, 08:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Re: I went to a specialty show.. We start puppies early with "sound conditioning" for double handling. When we start feeding them solid food, we also ring bells to let them know that it is time to eat. Quickly it becomes almost an instinct to respond to the bells. When they are big enough to go outside, we use the bells to call them back into the house. It is continued once they move into crates, but I use a different sound then. I know, as a dog trainer, that you don't have to use an obnoxious amount of noise if you train them right, so I use a silent dog whistle. The high pitch will carry above the din of dogs barking or bells ringing and people shouting. Most conformation people are not dog trainers so they take the easy way out. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

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gsdsrule Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Posts: 62	Re: I went to a specialty show.. I know what it's called. I still think it is stupid. What keeps the dog going is the handler and conditioning. __________________ "Dogs are not our whole lives, but they make our lives whole" Roger Caras

07-14-2009, 10:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
middleofnowhere Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 12,472	Re: I went to a specialty show.. It's double handling. The GSD show world is notorious for it. Last I knew it was considered a disqualification in the AKC show world but the GSD ring ignored that little nugget. A lot of other breed folks have a bit of contempt for us because of it.

07-15-2009, 12:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: I went to a specialty show.. I was wondering what it was called, to me it was a bit silly, but that's just my opinion ( no offense attended ). I am in handling class now with my girl Noel, for me it was really easy to catch on to see what people in a real ring were doing. Just from watching shows I know that showing and handling Noel is something Im really going to enjoy!! __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

07-15-2009, 09:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
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