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Old 05-21-2014, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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These are the shots I got from the vet. I don't know crap about this stuff. Her records say LS and bilateral HD with thickening of the femoral heads.

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The hips are well seated, with greater than 50% coverage. There is thickening of the neck and flattening of the femoral head. What I would expect from a working dog after years of working.

There is arthritic bridging at LS. Again very common in working dogs and GSD in general. But I have seen much worse.

Of course I was trained to treat the dog not the X-rays. So watch how she moves and gets along.

With the LS, you may see problems posturing to defecate. That's where I saw it first with my girl. She became a poop walker, and did not fully posture as she got older. It can also make the slower to rise and cause soreness after strenuous activity.


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Edit to add: I also see the beginnings of arthritic change cranially in the lumbar vertebra, I think it's L3-L4. But I am not great at remembering how many lumbar vert there are. If you look at the vertebra towards the head that gets cut off in the X-ray, there are obvious protrusions on them. There are on all the seen vertebra, but much more pronounced in those.
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Thanks.

She's moving like a champ. Looking through her vet records shows that about 8 months ago, she was sitting and standing slowly and was showing mild instability in her rear when working. I'm not seeing any of it now.

She has been on Rimadyl for quite some time, so I took her off it. She is also on Gabapentin which I am leaving her on.

I feel that there will be a big difference now that she's not living in the kennels, on the concrete, spinning around all the time, on top of working. I'm going to get a ramp for the truck. I'm lifting her up and down for the time being.

She's also sleeping on a pad on a Kuranda or Tempurpedic now too.


Reading through her records was tough. 3 tail tip traumas before the amputation, she ripped the staples out 3 times, a right foreleg injury, 3 ear infections including a tympanic membrane rupture, 2 broken teeth, they did a gastropexy while she was down for the ear cleaning and the incision got infected, an ABX resistant staph infection on her chest from scratching when they took her off ZD... poor dog. This is all since she went back to the kennels after April 2012.

I'm glad she's home.
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I also see the beginnings of arthritic change cranially in the lumbar vertebra, I think it's L3-L4. But I am not great at remembering how many lumbar vert there are. If you look at the vertebra towards the head that gets cut off in the X-ray, there are obvious protrusions on them. There are on all the seen vertebra, but much more pronounced in those.
Here's a better shot of the lumbar

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Wow, poor girl has had a lot happen to her, but I am sure now that you have her, she will flourish. From the looks of her x-rays a heated dog pad might give her some comfort, we use them on the Kurandas for older dogs, just a thought, regardless, just pleased she is in your home, best wishes, Bob
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Heat stimulates blood flow/circulation
Cold packs reduces inflammation. I have never found heat to be beneficial when my back was flared up...
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David,

I don't have the knowledge to say much about her spine, but I do know that I have had dogs with much worse hips who did fairly well, esp. with meds. She should do fine now that she's not working, and as you said, off the concrete, not spinning, etc. Daddy (and Mom!) will take care of her, she's in the best spot for her now.

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Ok. Thanks for the better pic. So it looks like L2-4 have increased spiny processes, more so than the rest.

I would, if she were mine, keep her on the Gabapentin, and add in Dasuquin(or another Glucosamine supplement), omega 3 and 6 fatty acids(they help with inflammation).

I would also start doing some core building exercises. Just like with people a strong core supports the back. The 2 easiest ways are using a Bosu ball and getting her to perch first with her front feet and then with her back feet, get her to balance herself. Then teach her to have all 4 feet on the ball and balance.

The other exersise you can do is have her in the bed or the couch, standing square, and gently push her side to side between your hands, that are on either side of her chest. This will get her to engage her core.

Walk, up hills are good for building her leg muscles that support her hips, you can also do "sit to stands". Have her sit and then stand, but get her back end engaged so she just raises up, does not step forward.

Laser therapy, acupuncture and underwater treadmill will also help to decrease inflammation and build muscle.

I would keep Rimadyl on hand. If you know she is going to have a very busy day, give her a dose beforehand. Should help prevent pain before it starts!

Good Luck!! I am very happy that you have her home!!! You both deserve a good rest after serving. Thank you both!!!


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