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VanBuren shepherds 12-24-2013 09:07 PM

Critique these hips.
 
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I'm being offered a Male Czech import that is a trained PPD. This is a photo of his hips x-Ray. From what I can tell the hips don't look great. Can someone with more experience in looking at hips advise me on this? Sorry about the quality of the picture it's all they sent me.
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Lucy Dog 12-24-2013 09:15 PM

You really need a better copy of the x-ray.

I'd definitely want to see a better copy of that right hip. Doesn't look great in that picture, but it could just be the quality of the picture.

VanBuren shepherds 12-24-2013 09:29 PM

Thanks, I will probably see the x-Ray in person on Sunday.


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selzer 12-24-2013 10:59 PM

I hope it's just the film, but it looks awful to me. Has he already had surgery on that hip?

VanBuren shepherds 12-24-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by selzer (Post 4721050)
I hope it's just the film, but it looks awful to me. Has he already had surgery on that hip?

I don't know I'll find out more on Sunday. But they look awful to me also. I do know he is a Czech import and he is 7 years old and the current owner has had him for 4 years. These X-rays were taken before they acquired him. So I can't imagine what they look like now. Both hips look bad to me. If they are that bad there should be some signs in the way he moves I think.
Does anyone know of some great ways to tell or what to look for when I'm checking him out on Sunday?
I asked and he's not current on heart worm medicine also. Not sure, but probably not much care has been taken for anything else.
He was professionally trained as a PPD and they acquired him for $3500.00. They said he is chasing their young foals and they can't keep him because of that.


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JakodaCD OA 12-25-2013 03:06 PM

I'm no expert, and I agree the xrays aren't the best, the way they are, those hips don't look good to me:(

However, if he's that 'bad' how can he be chasing their foals? :) He may have built up some good muscle tone to compensate?

I certainly wouldn't pay 3500 for him 'as is'. Are they looking to adopt him out?

I'd be concerned also with no HW meds:(

I have no idea how you could check him out, other than to watch him move, I'd be curious to see 'how' he chases their foals..(not that they'd want to demonstrate that I'm sure)..

I think I'd want a HW check on him as well.

VanBuren shepherds 12-25-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA (Post 4722658)
I'm no expert, and I agree the xrays aren't the best, the way they are, those hips don't look good to me:(

However, if he's that 'bad' how can he be chasing their foals? :) He may have built up some good muscle tone to compensate?

I certainly wouldn't pay 3500 for him 'as is'. Are they looking to adopt him out?

I'd be concerned also with no HW meds:(

I have no idea how you could check him out, other than to watch him move, I'd be curious to see 'how' he chases their foals..(not that they'd want to demonstrate that I'm sure)..

I think I'd want a HW check on him as well.

They are actually just wanting me to adopt him at no cost. To protect Him and the foals. But the expense of dealing with many potential health problems may run well into the thousands.

I'm going to at least look at him on Sunday to discuss his hips and see what can be done to help him if he needs it. If not I'm afraid he will end up in a shelter somewhere.

I at least what to do everything I can to help them in this situation.

Sunday I will see if I can take better pictures of the hip X-rays and post them. Thanks guys!


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MaggieRoseLee 12-25-2013 07:51 PM

If he's 7 years old and tearing around with no trouble, and if you love him, and if he's FREE.... I would think about taking him.. :)

But those x-rays aren't positioned correctly either, so even when you do see them they wouldn't give all the info you need plus they are old.

Good luck!

trcy 12-25-2013 09:28 PM

The positioning is pretty bad. It's difficult to judge the hips when the position is not ideal.

Magwart 12-25-2013 09:47 PM

HW wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me--esp. if he's stage 1 or 2 (a symptomatic or only very mild symptoms). If he's tearing around foals, it sounds like he doesn't have exercise intolerance, so even if HW+, perhaps no clinical signs yet (a good thing, for treatment purposes). I've taken a few dogs through "fast kill" HW treatment, and know many others going through slow kill with doxy and Advantage Multi. It's doable, esp. if the dog is free to you.

This dog needs to be kept out of the shelter if he's a good dog. Shelters hearing "personal protection trained" may send him to the euth room without ever putting him up for adoption because of the perceived liability. If you decide not to adopt him, maybe see if you can partner with a breed rescue and offer to foster him? (It's a lot easier for a rescue to say "yes" to helping place a private party dog if there's a foster offering to help.)


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