Breeder Vet's Opinion vs. Your Vet's Opinion - Page 2 - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-12-2013, 03:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Lucy Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,760
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Okin View Post
I requested my vet get the OFA paperwork ready, I will have them sent out tomorrow. Regardless I am not going to trade my dog for a new puppy, I am attached and love her she is staying with me regardless.
Even if that right hip ends up being bad, they're not horrible by any means. They could be much much worse. The right supplements, a healthy weight, and a good diet and the dog might never show any symptoms his whole life. As a pet, there's no reason to ever consider trading him in for a new pup.
Lucy Dog is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-12-2013, 04:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: ontario -
Posts: 7,547
Default

it is not a matter of the OP trusting her vet , the breeder needs to be confident in the competency - OFA is the final arbitrator settling disputes .
The x ray is good .

I don't see any reason why you would or should have to give up your dog to get any support from the breeder . That is emotional blackmail letting them off the hook. I wonder if the breeder would consider some form of a refund to help you out with future care expenses . You x rayed the dog and provided her with feedback on what this animal or this combination produced. Perhaps other pup owners will also x ray and give a clear picture on hip statistics . So with that the breeder gains with information, helpful in making choices. Your part of the deal will have to be that you do not breed the dog .
hope things work out for you.
__________________
Carmen

**********

Carmspack
carmspack is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2013, 04:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Okin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 375
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
it is not a matter of the OP trusting her vet , the breeder needs to be confident in the competency - OFA is the final arbitrator settling disputes .
The x ray is good .

I don't see any reason why you would or should have to give up your dog to get any support from the breeder . That is emotional blackmail letting them off the hook. I wonder if the breeder would consider some form of a refund to help you out with future care expenses . You x rayed the dog and provided her with feedback on what this animal or this combination produced. Perhaps other pup owners will also x ray and give a clear picture on hip statistics . So with that the breeder gains with information, helpful in making choices. Your part of the deal will have to be that you do not breed the dog .
hope things work out for you.
The contract reads that is at the discretion of the breeder. So who knows? She won't be bred regardless I will leave that to the knowledgeable breeders.
__________________
Athena -GSD- born 12/13/12
Luna -Shepherd Mix- born 3/20/99
Okin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2013, 04:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: ontario -
Posts: 7,547
Default

what is at the discretion of the breeder ?? that you don't get some refund?

that is so wide open and vague. Agree with Lucy dog . Get the facts from OFA. Communicate the results to the breeder. Continue to love your dog , do the best by them and for them. Enjoy.
__________________
Carmen

**********

Carmspack
carmspack is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2013, 04:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
selzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
Posts: 24,148
Default

My warranty reads that x-rays must be submitted to the OFA. It is true that too many vets get it wrong.

This dog's x-rays look like I would definitely want an OFA opinion on them. They can change yet, and only a pre-lim can be done at this point. But, I wouldn't worry over-much about those hips, and I would probably not be considering getting anything back from the breeder at this point because of them.
__________________
Arwen, CD RN CGC
Whitney, RN CGC
Tori, RN CGC

Jenna, RN CGC & Babs, CD RA CGC HIC
Heidi, RA CGC
SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD
Ninja, RN CGC & Milla, RN CGC
Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC
Dolly CGC & Bear CGC
Gretta
Hepzibah & Hannah
selzer is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Colie CVT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 211
Default

Things like this is why the scores on OFA aren't official until the dog is over two and they have finished growing and developing. A part of what can cause trouble is based on growth/development and the different things that can happen. Really nasty from the start HD is hard to miss. My first dog had her hips splay out from under her and she would yelp in pain and struggle to get up. That was at only a few months. Her hips eventually had surgery.

I work with a radiologist and the reason that people send him radiographs to review is that he has been specifically taught to see what most people would miss. I've learned a lot from him. The x-rays done on my female GSD and my roommate's both got different ratings between what the general vet believed and what the radiologist saw. My girl was given bad and my roommates good, but the radiologist found evidence of early OA on my roommates dog and saw nothing wrong with my girl's hips. I took both rads myself and I take things for the surgeons so I know they were correct lol.

Never hurts to have a third unbiased party say something (or in other words OFA) to see where that falls. I still plan to send my golden's in and do PennHIP on my girl even if her OFA was good.


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
Colie CVT is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2013, 06:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,794
Default

i wouldn't trust either. i would want an ortho vet to check.
huntergreen is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-13-2013, 07:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
The Rescues Rule Administrator
 
JeanKBBMMMAAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 23,483
Default

If I really cared I would do Penn Hip.

I do care, but just for diagnostic, therefore if positioning is off because the dog's leg won't move to a straight position due to their structure I am okay with that - that tells me a lot right there.
JeanKBBMMMAAN is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-13-2013, 11:28 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Okin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 375
Default

I will be interested to see what the OFA results say. Do you think there is a downside other than the cost to giving the Adaquan? Shouldn't it help the joints either way? When I was reading about it I read it didn't have a big impact on th kidneys like other drugs.
__________________
Athena -GSD- born 12/13/12
Luna -Shepherd Mix- born 3/20/99
Okin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com