Chimo- Male Incontinence?

[Amaruq]

OK we are inching closer to some possible answers. Well at least narrowing down and eliminating some potential causes. Between the two vets and my own observations we (well so far one vet and I) are thinking Chimo has developed male incontinence. I have not yet called his "natural treatment" vet. But I was wondering if any of you have any home/natural treatments that have worked.

The vet today did a urinalysis on his pee today and said it looked great. Not diluted, no red or white blood cells. Then she said the ultimate "Looks like darn close to perfect pee to me."

[BowWowMeow]

Check this out and be sure to read the reviews: http://search.onlynaturalpet.com/sea...ontinence&mf=0

[Amaruq]

We will be going back to the natural vet on Friday for the incontinence issue.

[LisaT]

Is this prostate related?

Max has had intermittent issues, but with him, it's either he needs an adjustment, or he has too much sulfur in his diet (eggs, MSM, taurine etc.)

[Brightelf]

Just thinking aloud here... does your alternative vet do Traditional Chinese Medicine-- would he do an herbal mix for Chimo's bladder?

[Amaruq]

Originally Posted By: LisaTIs this prostate related?

Max has had intermittent issues, but with him, it's either he needs an adjustment, or he has too much sulfur in his diet (eggs, MSM, taurine etc.)

It may or may not be prostate related. He sometimes seems fine and other times there is significant leaking. Actually he has had eggs maybe ONCE since this started. Not thinking there would be much sulfur in his diet. But something to look into.

[3K9Mom]

Ruq,

What were Chimo's most recent BUN and Creatinine levels in his bloodwork? I'm more interested in that than in his UA.

Camper was having some serious urinary issues (not incontinence, but...). This is one of the herbal decoctions he's taking, and after about a month on it, it seems to be working great (he's slept through the night five of the last six nights).

http://www.chinesemedicinetools.com/sang-piao-xiao-san


Zamboni takes this for kidney health and it really seems to be helping:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/erxian.htm


I wouldn't know if these could be mixed together (and I wouldn't try ). But I have become a big fan of Chinese herbs in the last couple months because I've seen both of my dogs turned around -- especially Camper. When the best of specialists just threw up her hands and just said, "I don't know what I can do for him," the holistic vet said, "ah, we should be able to get this under control." Then he did just that.

[Amaruq]

Creatinine 1.0

BUN/Creatinine 19

[3K9Mom]

Those are pretty good numbers:

Quote:
Two of the most useful chemicals that veterinarian measure to see if toxins are building up in the patient's body are Blood Urea Nitrogen (BUN) and Creatinine. Normal BUN levels in dogs and cats seldom reach higher that 25 to 30 mg/dl. (Mg/dl means milligrams of material per 100 milliliters of blood.) Many patients presented in renal failure have BUN levels of 90 or higher! Similarly, Creatinine, a chemical normally present in the blood at levels less than 1.0 mg/dl, may rise to over 8 mg/dl.

http://www.thepetcenter.com/gen/kf.html

also: http://www.vet.uga.edu/VPP/clerk/mckee/index.php

The fact that the urine was concentrated sounds good too. Based on these numbers, it's probably not renal. That's really good news. I like checking off that box!

[BowWowMeow]

Chama has had some intermittent leaking issues over the years and I was able to get it under control by changing her food. I also added some herbs during problem times.