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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 02-14-2013, 07:38 PM Thread Starter
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Can't do SAR if you do bite sports?

Went to my 2nd SAR meeting last night and I really like the group, but I found out at the meeting that they do not allow dogs that have had any sort of training in bitework whether it's personal protection or IPO. I really wanted to at least try both SAR & IPO with my next dog. I didn't realize it was going to be an either or situation. Do other SAR groups have this policy as well?

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I think it is pretty common....insurance liability issues....I let a dog go to a co-owner...he was ready for his titles, I had put the BH on him....she did the Sch1, but then started working with a SAR trainer who made her choose between the two and she did SAR ....he is certified out the ears for SAR, but has never been on a real search to my knowledge....shame as he could have been a V KKL IPO3 dog and had alot of fun! So when you make your choice, make sure your group will actually go out and be utilized!

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post #5 of 34 (permalink) Old 02-14-2013, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
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My team definitely has call outs. They've had 3 since the last month's meeting. Guess I will have to think about it.

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My SAR group allows SchH titled dogs. BUT it's done on a "case by case" basis, all depending on the individual dog. I knew of a few more groups that does the same thing.

My wilderness dog is titled to a SchHII.
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Too late to edit, but I will add that we have since June been on 3 calls out, could have been more but I was not available to go. But we do get more call outs for HR searches than wilderness.
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Our group allows Sch dogs on a case by case basis. They would rather not, but there were two ex-K9 officers in the group who were some of the best SAR dogs I've ever seen, so they had a few more restrictions than the regular members, but it worked well.

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post #9 of 34 (permalink) Old 02-15-2013, 09:26 PM
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Interesting. I started a thread a few weeks ago about why some shelters/rescues have policies about dogs they adopt out not participating in bite sports.

I assumed it was for liability issues similar to the ones Wolfstraum mentioned. This is further confirmation of that.
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I should clarify that I was speaking of some shelters/rescues that I know of that specifically state that any dog adopted from their organization is contractually not permitted to take part in bite sport training.

I am NOT saying that they will not adopt out dogs they may know to have had that training in the past... assuming the dog passes the temperament tests they administer.
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