Find-Indication-Refind

Mrs.K · 03-20-2011, 07:16 AM

I think she's got it down pretty good. She definitely knows what to do and she starts asking for more. The "Out" has gotten sloppy though, it's something we need to work on.

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dog27 · 03-20-2011, 09:47 AM

Looks very nice, good work.

One thing we do a little differently is to only reward the dog when the handler gets all the way to the subject. When searching a large or difficult area the dog may need to shuttle back and forth a few times before the handler can get there. After the indication you don't want your dog to get back to the subject and just wait there expecting a reward. So we teach the dog from the very beginning exercises that its job is not done until the handler touches the subject.

Mrs.K · 03-20-2011, 11:04 AM

that makes a lot of sense.

**ladylaw203** · 03-20-2011, 12:35 PM

Nice job. I agree with only rewarding when I get there. If I have a bit of a trek,dog gets frustrated.

Looks a wee bit chilly

Mrs.K · 03-20-2011, 12:36 PM

It was very windy and chilly but we've had lots of fun.

Okay, I will apply that for the training to reward the dog only once I get there.

**jocoyn** · 03-20-2011, 05:09 PM

Agree - party for you getting to the victim. (Just got back)

**jocoyn** · 03-20-2011, 08:53 PM

Oh, another variable you will need to play in is the dog indicating on you under different conditions:

you walking towards her, you walking away from her, you standing still, etc.

A lot of times folks freeze when the dog comes to check in and inadvertently prompt an indication with their body language - OR - the dog requires the handler to be still to offer the trained indication.

dog27 · 03-21-2011, 04:47 PM

Another thing we always do is train with the same gear that we use on missions. That means a vest on the dog and a SAR pack and radio harness on the handler, starting from the very first training exercises. Putting on and taking off the vest then becomes part of the ritual to signal the start and end of work. And if you have any issues with your gear you find that out and adjust as needed during trainings instead of missions. Will your dog do the jump indication when you have a radio harness on? Will the radio break?

03-20-2011, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
dog27 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: WA Posts: 118	Looks very nice, good work. One thing we do a little differently is to only reward the dog when the handler gets all the way to the subject. When searching a large or difficult area the dog may need to shuttle back and forth a few times before the handler can get there. After the indication you don't want your dog to get back to the subject and just wait there expecting a reward. So we teach the dog from the very beginning exercises that its job is not done until the handler touches the subject. __________________ Jonathan & Benny

03-20-2011, 12:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
ladylaw203 Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 4,752	Nice job. I agree with only rewarding when I get there. If I have a bit of a trek,dog gets frustrated. Looks a wee bit chilly __________________ Renee Utley Port Authority Police KaroSkocickaSamotaZM,ZOP,ZPU,FPR,FPR,ZVV1,ZZZ,ZZP, RHE,ZM TART, IRO titled SAR dog ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia ZVV1 Jessy Vikar www.nndda.org, Certifying official http://www.voneintzeshepherds.com

03-20-2011, 05:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
jocoyn Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,052	Agree - party for you getting to the victim. (Just got back) __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Grim (Grimmy Bear) & Beau (Bo-dee man) Waiting at the Bridge: Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

03-20-2011, 08:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
jocoyn Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,052	Oh, another variable you will need to play in is the dog indicating on you under different conditions: you walking towards her, you walking away from her, you standing still, etc. A lot of times folks freeze when the dog comes to check in and inadvertently prompt an indication with their body language - OR - the dog requires the handler to be still to offer the trained indication. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Grim (Grimmy Bear) & Beau (Bo-dee man) Waiting at the Bridge: Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

03-21-2011, 04:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
dog27 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: WA Posts: 118	Another thing we always do is train with the same gear that we use on missions. That means a vest on the dog and a SAR pack and radio harness on the handler, starting from the very first training exercises. Putting on and taking off the vest then becomes part of the ritual to signal the start and end of work. And if you have any issues with your gear you find that out and adjust as needed during trainings instead of missions. Will your dog do the jump indication when you have a radio harness on? Will the radio break? __________________ Jonathan & Benny

03-20-2011, 11:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,381	that makes a lot of sense.

03-20-2011, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,381	It was very windy and chilly but we've had lots of fun. Okay, I will apply that for the training to reward the dog only once I get there.

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