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Old 05-21-2014, 09:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The SDA forearm suit bites do hurt. There is a technique to it to keep from breaking bones. Not saying it doesn't hurt, but no breaks. I have caught some VERY hard biting dogs and my arms are still intact. Also in SDA the dog is allowed to bite forearm or bicep/tricep in the suit. That being said, my puppies are bicep dogs on the suit. If a sleeve is presented, they will take that.
What is the technique? Don't get molars on your ulna? Lol
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What is the technique? Don't get molars on your ulna? Lol
Haha Yup! You got it.

It's the angle that your arm is presented to the dog. As you know, the forearm is two bones. If you present with the bones up and down then there is a gap that the dog can crush breaking one or both. If the bones are parallel to the ground(think bite bar angle in sleeve) the there is no "air" gap to be able to compress the bones. I will try and find a few pictures. From my hand angle you can tell my forearm angle.
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Haha Yup! You got it.

It's the angle that your arm is presented to the dog. As you know, the forearm is two bones. If you present with the bones up and down then there is a gap that the dog can crush breaking one or both. If the bones are parallel to the ground(think bite bar angle in sleeve) the there is no "air" gap to be able to compress the bones. I will try and find a few pictures. From my hand angle you can tell my forearm angle.
In a thin suit though... Strong dog can crack bigger bones with the molars
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In a thin suit though... Strong dog can crack bigger bones with the molars
Maybe, I've caught a dog that have crushed my hard sleeve to the point of not being able to use again in an ALM trial suit with a leather gauntlet under.
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If the answer is no, how hard is it to switch over to I guess personal protection. Are hidden sleeves ever used in IPO training and why can't you just mix the two (IPO/PP).
The answer is based on the dog, some have ZERO hesitation in engaging without equipment some will run off the field if equipment is removed and challenged.
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I agree it is based on the dog, and somewhat to lesser degree on the training.
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